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stephen_becker
Senior Club Cobra Member
Registered: July 2004
Posts: 317
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Comment Date: Sun March 1, 2015
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NO BOAT MOTORS!!!
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Stallion79
CC Member
Registered: March 2015
Posts: 2
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Comment Date: Sun March 29, 2015
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I have one for my 1979 Stallion. I have it pulled and they're going through it now. Not looking to sell but everything is for sale. What is your budget range?
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BradJ
Registered User
Registered: December 2015
Posts: 4
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Comment Date: Sun December 6, 2015
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t me preface this post by stating that I have owned and love many Ford muscle cars to include two 71 Mach 1's (both 351 clevelands 4v), a 65 Fastback Shelby clone that was cloned right down to using the Shelby/Arning drop and under the hood couldn't be distinguished from a true Shelby, and several Mustangs from the 60's, but I have been struggling somewhat financially and bought the car that I am discussing here just for the purpose of selling it. The car is a 1969 Mach 1 4 speed with a 427 side oiler. The seller lived out in the boonies and didn't have any internet skills and, thus, didn't have a grasp on the value of his vehicle. I had to do the transaction entirely by phone and the car is far nicer than described, close to show condition, and NEVER once did he make the selling point the motor. The car is a base model Mach 1 S-code and he owned it since 1983. He and his father built the car together and all of the body work on a rust free car was with lead (minus the hood). When his Dad passed away the car was pretty much parked and only registered one year.
Okay, here is what he told me about the motor that was only revealed by my numerous questions. He had a friend who owned a Ford dealership and this friend bought up the inventory of a closing dealership and in that inventory were two Side Oiler blocks still in boxes. His friend used one for his drag racing hobby and sold him the other for $500.00! He told me that he thought it was a 68 block because on the box it had a number that began with C8. In my efforts to decipher this block I spoke with someone who told me that because it was ribbed it couldn't be a 68 but I read somewhere else that there were 12 side oiler blocks manufactured as "service blocks" to replace motors for the 1968 Cougar W-30. It also stated that only 6 of these blocks have been accounted for. These blocks were ribbed and had hydraulic lifter capability. I have this car in my possession and it is clearly a 427 side oiler. It has the screw in freeze plugs, the ribs, and the cross bolted mains. I have a pile of receipts and one is from the machine shop. The fresh block was bored 5 thousandths over and it has a forged steel dollar sign stamped crank, eagle rods, J and E pistons, adjustable rockers, 428 CJ heads, a Weiand dual plane intake and a Holley carb. The previous owner estimated mileage on the block at approximately 500 miles.
There is on Ebay a 390 that was pulled from a Cobra kit car with everything on the motor because he pulled it and put in a 427 side oiler. I have been thinking that I might purchase this motor and sell the side oiler separately. If I do this the pan could be dropped, etc., to get any additonal info on the 427. Can anyone assist with further identification? In owning several of my classic cars over my 57 years I have always had a sense of the responsibility of preserving and educating others about these beautiful pieces of American automotive history and if this motor is what I am thinking it may be it could possibly be an amazing example of a motor that has no peers in Ford racing lore. The thoughts of the incredibly well educated users of this site would be greatly appreciated.
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