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OK; we do have a definition. With that definition in mind, it is hard to deny the following facts,

1. Government spending after healthcare goes from around 15% of GDP to more than 30%
2. Other programs like Social Security and Medicare will got broke over the next 20-30. Medicare deficit is expected to by $37 Trillion within 10 years.
3. Government did take over some banks, auto companies, and insurance companies.
4. Government is telling the private sector how much they can get paid; in some cases they are determining who gets hired!
5. For the first time in our history, our Government is telling us that we must buy a service that they provide, simply because we exist.
6. Government seeks completely change our energy consumption policy (cap and trade) based on unsettled science at huge costs to jobs, property.
7. The EPA, the FED, and unelected government agencies, are giving themselves lawmaking authority that is unprecedented in our republic.
8. Obama has spent Trillions and is committing Trillions more to these programs with very little to show for it. Our children will live in a country that has debts and policies that many consider to be unwise today.
9. The initial health care bill proposed that the Government would have direct access to our bank accounts and take money out of it without our approval to make sure they got their/own money.


Yet, in the face of all of the above, you suggest that people are crazy because they fear the increased power of the state, and disagree with these policies, be it defined as socialism or otherwise. If you disagree with this simple point, then I don't know what more can be said.