[mr bruce]

What do you mean by" ground up"? I build everything from the ground up, starting with the frames ,I go to the supply house and buy lenghs of tubing and such, build jigs/ fixtures, make the frames, brackets, suspension pieces. For the body , I start with an armature/plaster plug, build molds, mold my own bodies, roofs , hoods, etc. If that 's what you mean by "ground up", count me in.