[Excaliber]

Well you would think I, of all people, would know if someone here favored a nuclear option? I don't recall seeing that. The idea has been mentioned in some threads though, more like musing about the possibility. STILL on the table I would think? I think it's fairly unlikely, it would certainly doom a number of Dem's in the mid terms.

BUT, if Pelosi is dead set to get a bill passed at any cost, she might be willing to "off" a few Dem's in the process. They would only need 51 votes (I think that was the number) so they could "dump" nine or so Dem's right off the bat.

I never took Cap and Trade or Copenhagen that seriously anyway, I never felt those two items got more than lip service, never got close enough to the vote stage. They could come back to haunt us, but not in the near future.