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67snake,

If you have a Butler, you won't find anything under the seat, only where Russ states. All the Butler cars have a complete frame number here. If you have one of the 60 frames Butler built for Arntz, you should have just a number (1-60) in this same area, although it may be on the top of the frame piece instead of the side and therefore harder to see through that front opening.

If you put some pictures in your gallery (especially from underneath), we can help you even more! And search the Arntz / Butler forums here; there's alot of info to help you, including everything we've just said...

Keep us posted,

Jason