[Silverback51]

This is one of those situations where it does not matter what anyone says, we will not change the other side. No different than politics.

The only thing I will say is that how any of us behaves reflects on everyone else.

If a person see's a sports car, hot rod, jacked up 4X4, etc. (well you get the idea) doing something irresponsible, then it reflects on all of us. The next time that person see's another vehicle like the one he seen doing something, then he remembers that and thinks that other person is the same as the first one. Not right, but that is human nature.