[Paul F]

Originally Posted by tcrist

Thanks Paul, that is exactly the information that I need (I think). I will call and ask for Lisa on Monday morning. Maybe she can tell me exactly what I have or don't have.

The other thing that I was wondering. If SB100 was not around when my car was first registered, would/should it have been grandfathered in?

No, there is no grandfathering, but rather a clear set of rules that were in place when your car was registered. You said your car was registered in the early '90s. At that time, SPCNS cars were registered as the year it was registered (mine is a '95 and my title said 1995; now it says 0000 because I have SB100). BUT the smog back then had two options; go by the year of registration or go by the year of the motor. Of course, no one would go by the year of registration. In your case, they found a '69 302 and put that in. So if it were to be smogged today, they would run the smog test to whatever the rules were for that motor in 1969. That is exactly what I had to do for some 13 years.

The fact that your title says 0000 does indicate SB-100. But again your sticker does not.

Originally Posted by tcrist

If the case is that I do actually have an SB100, but no sticker, will they just send me one or will I have to go through the SB100 process anyway? Either way, I don't really care. I just want to be legal and not have to be bothered buy this again.

I don't know. That is likely unchartered territory. They may even say that it doesn't matter that your sticker does not say SB-100. I don't buy it. Look at the situation your in right now.

Originally Posted by tcrist

Guess I should have asked the DMV on Friday what SB100 number they say they have in the system for my car.

Yes, good point. The buyer should have provided you with the original paper work from the SB-100, which is a document mailed to you with the sequence number on it.

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Originally Posted by tcrist

FYI, This is the response that I received from Mr. Morgester.
This was a reply to an e-mail that I sent him BEFORE the DMV told me that I had a supposable SB100.

I would have to look at your registration history to tell you for sure. At his point I am guessing:

1. Assuming it was legally registered as a SPCN when it was first built (big if)
- BAR was allowing the year of the engine to determine smog
- BAR's regs were changed with the passage of the law that allowed SB100, no more engine models for smog year
- Those engines now have to pass smog based on year of build (not year of engine)

2. You registered it as a SPCN in 2005 when you purchased (good for you)
- Per your existing registration you either need to meet 2005 emission standards or have an SB100 exemption.
- Depending on the legality of the original registration you could ask for the original year of the build (early 90's) for emission testing [really wont help you]
- So this should have happened to you in 2005

3. Why the delay?
- I have no idea, you somehow fell through the cracks and DMV is finally on the ball. SB100 will solve all of your issues.

Morgester is right on the point (that's no surprise). Someone combed through registrations and is making trouble for you. They think you don't have an SB-100, otherwise, they would not have triggered the smog requirement. That's again, why you need to talk to Sacramento.

Without SB-100, you have no chance of getting the car smogged if they force you to have a 2005 registration. I didn't follow that part of his discussion. If you bought a California car (yes?), then it should have just remained a 199x or an SB-100 car when you registered it.

But again, your title says 0000. That is not what it would say if it was registered in 2005 or in 199x without an SB-100. If it was titled without SB-100, it should say 199x. Something is amiss.

Good luck.