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Old 11-11-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cashburn View Post
It sounds like you did marketing for World Industries. We considered their engines for 15 minutes and then started adding in all the components those prices did not include (no waterpump means no pulleys, belt, brackets, alternator, thermostat, water neck, it goes on and on) and suddenly we are at a price within 1-1.5k of the Roush price (but you still have to get all those other parts and make sure they lineup and fit etc.). Then you consider dyno claims and how they are tested, correction factor used, etc. and is the dyno number for your engine of the test engine etc.

Your prices also ignore inflation. But you can get the full polished option on the Roush for 1,200 today!

I'm not arguing, I'm stating my experience in the industry and having to put our name above the engine builder's name AND the chassis manufacturer's name.
No argument from me either and your point about ancillaries is fair but the price difference was greater for the power received. I think only the Engine Factory offers full complete crates with all desired ancillaries but there may be others.
I can vouch for the dyno results as I watched and documented all of them in prototype form. Any customer engine of the type that was even a little short was not 'crutched' on the dyno (by load factor)-it came off the stand and went back to the builder for tear-down. Every engine had it's own dyno sheets (up to 5 pulls after break-in) and it's number was it's number not just the prototype's.
Roush would not agree on price but if he had, every Roush would have a World block and heads...instead of Darts.
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