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Old 05-29-2012, 04:35 AM
RICK LAKE RICK LAKE is offline
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PatrickT Pat Barry is a 1/4 mile racer and Dyno motor builder. I have no issues with him, If he want to run lower pressures on FE motors, so be it. THis is how he gets repeat work, Ever think of that?? I believe I will have to pull up the engine masters spec on that motor.
First off, it's a dyno motor, as stated needs to last 3 pulls after that it could be junk.
Second I think this had an under size bottom end or a BBC bottom end. BBC rods are wider and you don't need the higher pressures, how ever if the thing is solid roller or lifter again you are back to old school.
You don't even know what I am talking about with a heavy bottom end. FE motors have some of the heaviest rods on motor up to 454. Crank shaft is the same. Pistons are lighter that some of the others depend on skirt length.
The rod rod width is the same as a 289-351 windsor motor with a rotating mass of about 10-20 pounds lighter, same for a SBC. wide bearings lower oil pressures.
Third If the FE bottom end is so great, then why in the early 80's did guys racing 1/4 mile swap over to Hemi cranks and rods?? Weight!!, wider bearings.
Why are we running stroker kits with BBC rods and bearings and not have FE cranks stroked and long rods??? Maybe you should look at some bearings for width and size. If FE motors had a great bottom end then why did they goto crossdrilled crankshafts and rods that weighted 1000+ grams, (NASCAR). I have a set of lemans rods in the basement, new in the box and a set of BBC rods of 6.7 ratio H beam, guess which one is heavier??
As a lawyer, you have nothing better to do than be a pain in the ass and use other peoples info and cite old threads. If you read what you copied, 10 psi at idle is not enough. 30-40 is safe for a street motor at idle. For racing autocross and roadracing 65-85 psi is safe with a wet sump system. We have little to no info on this motor of Bill's.
It's a damn shame that some of the best FE builders will no come of this forumn to talk any more due to people like you that just know every F--king thing about everything. Jay Brown started his own forumn because of clowns who think they know more than him. Drag week champion in 2 different cars.
Every machinist should be building motors to their customers specs and what they intend to do with their car. Some builds do and some donot.
I talk to 2-3 people a week off this forumn and give the best info I have to avoid the BS that comes from people who have not ever build a motor or car. I have talked to the best builders of FE over the years, including Barry R and a host of others that have anywhere from 10 years to 50+ years of building FE motors. ARTICLES of around 100 with every build I could find. It's all good info. You must have a problem where you work to have over 13,000 messages on this forumn alone, business must be slow. It's a free country to a point and I am not going to answer any more of your, (I think,say, believe, or got a reading from Queen Cleo hot line of info). Maybe you should run for President. Can't get any worse with you at the wheel. Rick L. Ps you want rare air, start with Joe B. in Cali and then hit Gessford machine. These 2 shops have and still set the table for who sits at the ends. One guy you know nothing about for starters. Have a nice day.
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