OK, since deep down I have a modicum of respect for Chas' color eye, here's what I did to see if he's right. I shot a large poster board with my car's base color. I then shot the middle third of that board with clear coat flat. So the outer thirds on this pic are base coat only - middle third is base coat and clear coat flat. Now, a flash shot does not give true colors, but what I was really looking for was the no gloss look for my wheels. Not even a matte. I don't know if you can tell that or not from this shot, but it's a nice flat of my base color. I think it will look nice inside the Trigos, but I'll mock it up further.