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Originally Posted by Treeve
gents,
Thought I'd bring it up, that many in Vic are looking at club rego as a way of not having to get their car engineered (quotes of $2k for engineering being too much).
For that money, just consider that you are getting a professional to look over your vehicle and ensure that not only is it compliant with the legislation, but that it is SAFE.
What I think many people miss is not that if they hurt themselves, tough luck, but that if you have a crash on the roads, the plates on your car make a real difference - full registration means you will have plenty of insurances etc. Also, that you will be less likely to be in this situation since your car (should) have been tested. I can be a grown up and deal with accidents that I cause to myself - I've come off enough bikes. But what about if the car I built then 'shortcutted' to driving through a club scheme is involved in an accident where someone is seriously hurt or worse?
Will the club have suitable insurances for this?
Will you have valid insurance in this situation?
We all love a bit of bling on our cars - I have spent more than most spend on Cobras building a clubbie. But to 'save' a few $k so you can shortcut the system and get on the road will only lead to a couple of things happening:
1. The club scheme will be recognised as a rort and will probably be stopped
2. Someone will end up hurt, and since the figures show that are more accidents with >1 car than single car accidents, you can be pretty sure it won't just be you in your club car who gets hurt.
Just think about it.
Treeve
p.s. if you want to email me and talk to me about club registration, how about recognising that I am a vehicle certifier, and hence will always recommend you get your vehicle certified and registered at least once. If you've been through these steps then go for club rego and save the money. But don't just head straight there, as from my experience every single ICV has at least one major failing that the owner must correct. I don't care if you don't like what I have to say about this, I just want to be safe on the road with the other road users, and not put at risk by some shortcutting prick who can spend a ****load on rims and tyres, but not enough on the actual engineering.
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*Sigh* - so many issues and so little time...
In my experience the use of the Club Permit System has very little to do with avoiding mainstream safety requirements.
I guess that there are a lot of advantages to having a qualified engineer visit and provide commentary.
It would appear however, on the basis of the quoted post, that the ability to draw a level headed distinction between compliance and safety is not amongst them.
Similarly, as Stiffy's post demonstrates, the ability to differentiate the cost(s) of Compliance with the fee paid to the certified engineer may also be elusive.
I am disappointed but not surprised that discussion on this topic has arisen again, particularly so from someone who's qualifications ought to enable them to segregate issues of Compliance & Safety or Fees & Cost.
I guess its a lot easier to have a shrill panty-wet if you dont address the legislative framework and its underpinnings.
I suppose there has never been an engineer who didn't take a pay-off to grease the wheels of compliance.
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Originally Posted by Treeve
... I've also heard stories ...
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I love a good story
Never the less I'm sure you'll stand behind your priciples and I await the details of individuals who you believe will attempt to 'rort' the system. The Victorian Club will ensure that appropriate reviews are conducted should the application pass our way.
LoBelly