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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.
2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?
After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.
At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.
SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)
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Things are worth what you can get. Thats supply and demand. Thats capitalism. Sounds like you want all these cars priced so they are affordable to the masses. Kinda like a "peoples car" right? Liberals/Progressives can take that desire and move to North Korea. That's the utopian socialistic state.
Moreover, your statements reveal your ignorance of the hobby. There are multiple Cobra replicas (SAAC's definition) available at $20K in kit form. You can buy a completed car for under $30K. How much less did you want them priced?
Oh, you want Shelbys price at $30K? You don't like their business model?. Write them a note. You think they are overpriced? Don't buy one. The wait is way too long? Don't buy one.
They use 60 year old parts? Really? Oh, you mean antiquated design? Well if you are continuing to produce a car that is 60 years old in design how else would you do it? In fact they have improved where they could in materials. Kirkham has improved aspects too but overall if you are continuing to build a 60 year old car your parameters are limited. No?
You think the options list for a Shelby Cobra are too expensive? Don't buy them from Shelby and install yourself.
Cobra replicas are easy to build? How many builds have you completed and what? If you build cars for a living every day its easy after a while. Anythings easier if you know how. A car, even one as simple as a Cobra or replica of one is very difficult to construct. You clearly have no clue of whats involved. It takes hours and hours of patience, mechanical and electrical know how and skill and elbow grease. Again, how many cars have you built?
News flash. This entire hobby from originals down to FFRs is a niche'. The % of people that know about these cars and car is infinitesimal compared to the overall population. Unfortunately, techno geeks are the wave of the future that lust for Prius's and over pay for sneakers. So I do agree with the notion that the Cobra value and industry will likely die out but I believe it will be from originals down to FFRs many years from now. Unfortunately there will not remain enough interest in these cars. When that goes even the originals will be old pieces of junk that no one will have an interest in. Could likely happen.
Shelbys are 3-4x cost? Really? Where are you getting your data? Even if they are, whats the issue with this? Supply and demand. If they don't sell prices will drop. If they are desired and supply is limited price rise. Not a socialist model I know but thats how it works here in the U.S. at least for now. Another Obama and were done.
In fact, What was the profit margin on your Prius? What was the profit margin on your overpriced sneaker collection? (Sneaker collection? Really
). Whats the profit margin on a FFR? Are you just trolling and speaking out your arse or do you have facts and data? Please enlighten us. Your semi retired from Facebook? What was your profit margin? You clearly retired way to fast. Clearly way too much.
Shelbys are just a hotrod authenticated by Shelby? Your correct actually. So were the original series. No difference. Fabricators changed thats the bulk of it. The Cobra was the ultimate hot rod. So are the replicas of it. In fact the replicas have helped keep the hobby alive and Cobra alive for 45 years.
Rodknock is correct and finally citing correctly to authoritative text. Kirkhams are considered Cobras for numerous reasons. Do you even have a Registry? Do you even know what one looks like?
Whats the point of openning a garage and seeing Cobra replica hot rod you ask? A FFR, BDR, Kirk is no more a Cobra than your Nissan or Prius or whatever rice burner/battery powered flashlight your driving you say? A Cobra is a Cobra. A replica of one is at least replicating one in looks and likely performance and the character and spirit of what the car was. It is a celebration of history and American accomplishment. You obviously have no clue what the hobby is all about.
Which would get your pulse going faster after seeing the garage door rising a Cobra replica or a Prius? I know what my answer is. Guys who collect sneakers obviously not so much.
Stick to sneakers cause you are clearly clueless when it comes to Cobras and replicas.