[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by blykins

Rod, I don't know if you're trying to be intentionally inflammatory or not.

However, you do have a point. There is a recipe for 600 hp with a 482 ci FE.

But here is where your point becomes null and void: when the customer throws in a soda straw air cleaner in the middle of the build and no time to tune, all bets are off.

My carb guy and I will routinely sneak another 20-30 hp through a combination by carb tuning and timing adjustments. I have picked up 20-25 hp alone on some street applications just by changing the timing a few degrees. I started out with 600 (600!) hp with David Brown's 496. We ended up with 683 after a day of tuning.

For goodness sake, there were two dyno sheets shown....one ended up at 12.5:1 A/F and the other was at 12. Way too rich.

Again, I really have no dog in this fight, but Barry is less likely to come on here and argue with a customer publicly. However, if this would have been my customer, talking about how disappointed he was after hamstringing me with a tiny air cleaner and no time to tune, I would be livid.

No time to tune was not all my fault. A hose blew on the dyno and had to be fixed. It burned an hour.