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Originally Posted by Jamo

Now that a fair number of you have beat each other up...everyone STFU for awhile.

...or folks will simply start disappearing with no notice.

RK - good to have you back... I thought something bad happened
Sorry, just finished watching the Godfather series...

Originally Posted by REAL 1

No, actually that's not being honest. You as others want to apply the general definition of "kit car" that applies to an entire range of cars such as Gazelles, Meyer Manx Dune buggies, Beck Spyders etc...The general definition of Kit Car applies to all those cars whose manufacturer does not complete the manufacture of the car, sells the uncompleted car to and leaves the completion to a third party.

So, seeming we can use the dictionary definition when it suits you, but not when it doesn't?

Which do you want to use? Pick ONE and be consistent please. Then the "merry go round from hell" as you put it will stop

Have you read Shakespear's "A Man for All Seasons"?

Originally Posted by REAL 1

This process exists primarily because of Federal safety and emission regulations and standards that creeped up on the motoring public in the late 60's. Even Carroll Shelby was noted to have remarked he could not continue production as he did and could not continue to build what he wanted to build as a result of growing restrictive Federal Regulations. .

I agree on this point, but sorry totally irrelevant...

Originally Posted by REAL 1

If you apply the generic "Kit Car" definition as used by dictionaries and generally by various states DMV for registration purposes [i]in fact, and I hate to break it to the gang here but the original Cobra today would be a "Kit Car" applying the dictionary or DMV definitions. It would follow the same and have to follow the same process as a Superformance for example in order for SAI to continue

Yes! So What? If your auntie had balls she'd be your uncle.
History SAYS this never happened... Correct?
Perhaps, maybe, would've, could've, should've, but DIDN'T! True?

Originally Posted by REAL 1

So by todays standards the original 2000 and 3000 series cars would have to be "Kit Cars" in order to continue to be produced and sold. Irrefutable.

Again Yes! So What? It never happened!
They were delivered with engines by the factory. COMPLETE!
NOT in parts, and NOT missing pieces for whatever reason. True?

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I and the vast majority of other Shelby Cobra owners apply and go by the SAAC definitions of "Kit Car and Replica" since this definition applies specifically and germanely to this hobby and these cars and style cars. It is the definition that applies to our world of Cobras. Not a generic definition that applies to everything from Gazelles to Dune Buggies for registration purposes and as noted to original series cars today if SAI was still popping them out uninterrupted. Shelby Cobras original series or Continuation series do NOT fall in the SAAC definition of "Kit Car or Replica". I know you are all disappointed.

No VESTED INTEREST there hey?
You continue to protest bias against SHELBY Continuation cars, but dear sir, you realise there are two sides to this coin... and I for one don't see it any bias to the cars themselves, quite the opposite, the cars are revered - In my humble experience, just raised eyebrows to those who aren't honest about what they have.
Seemingly some CSX continuation guys have a larger problem with this than most, but the same disdain is placed upon Kirkham or SPF or FF5 guys trying to pass theirs off as something other than...

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Joe Blow generally uses the term "kit and replica" to ask is that a fake.

Earlier in this thread - You were quite hostile in your description to point out that you couldn't give a chit, nor cared, nor presumed, what the inquirer was supposing, when they asked the question. Now you ARE supposing correct?
...and perhaps supposing INCORRECTLY, what they "mean"?

Originally Posted by REAL 1

When asked if my car is a "replica or a kit" I say "no, its a genuine Shelby Cobra. A continuation series Cobra." Its not a fake Shelby Cobra nor is it a replica of a Shelby Cobra. It is a Shelby Cobra. If asked if its an "original car/Cobra", I say no. I tell them its a Continuation Series Shelby Cobra. My answers are based on the World Registry not DMV. Very simple, honest, direct and easy actually.

See if you answered like that to a COBRA guy... they would know what you mean (even if they didn't agree).
BUT If you answer like that to John Citizen and his wife and kids, in the presence of a COBRA guy, that cobra guy would KNOW you're misleading them!
...and therefore conclude - you were telling a half truth and therefore being DISHONEST. Apologies to break it to you!

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I'm sure you guys will "keep "twisting" things in order to jam a square peg into a round hole.

Have at it. I've got my Registry right here on my desk.

Hello pot, my name is kettle.

Kind regards,