[Randall Thomas]

However, the real difference is, yours is truly "opinion", whereas mine came from the source. Please understand, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything, other than what the facts are.

I suspect hearing any of the details or further facts from anyone here isn't going to mean much too you, so if getting to those facts are truly your motive you can call up Lance Stander yourself. He is always a pleasure to speak with and loves other brand owners just as much as his own.

I told him you may be calling so he would be glad to speak with you if he is in the office whenever you call. I didn't know who you were other than "Rod knock", so they will get you right through to Lance if you call (949) 900-1960. And then you can ask clarification on what you disbelieve, directly.