[lovehamr]

Thanks Tom! I posted a "rant" a few yeas ago where I included formulas etc. saying almost the exact thing after reading yet another post here poo-pooing HP. You know the type; "Torque is what moves you and HP is just a made up number" that sort of tripe. But I'd never even thought to include "tractive force" or graphs as are included in Onpoint's article. Their inclusion makes this concept much more clear.