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Originally Posted by Selo
I'm not necessarily even asking for myself at this point, just surprised that no one really commented on the coyote as a desirable option.
I think twobjshelby's above is getting to the heart of the issue. That's what I was really asking about. Sounds like most people on this forum don't think the coyote is a pure Cobra engine. By the way, I love the fact that mine is loud and my garage smells like gas. Just wish it had a little more grunt. I'm going to be tweaking a few things within the next week or two that hopefully will improve the drivability, it's a damn nice car, no two ways about it, just needs a little attention.
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You can look at them on Ford racing website.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/engines/#modular
The maximum Hp coyote is 5.2 ltr 580 Hp @ 7800 rpm 440 torque @ 4500 rpm and it is not street legal in a modern car. It costs $20K. I do believe you would have to get a wire harness and a new ECU which could set you back another $3K unless you could source used from a salvage yard.
The more typical coyote is 5.0 ltr 435 Hp @ 6500 rpm 400torque @ 4250 rpm. It costs $8K plus the CPU and wire harness.
The dyno chart I saw on a newer Mustang hit about 300 torque at 3000 rpm peaks at 350 and is back down to 300 at 7000 rpm, on a chassis dyno (power read from the wheels to the ground). From everything I have read these engine produce good low rpm torque and have a very flat torque curve. They can do that with the variable timing cam shafts, which also allows the torque to be produced to very high rpm numbers, which is the reason for the high Hp at high rpm. Also contributing to that is the very well designed 4 valve per cylinder heads. The heads make the engine and these are some of the best head designs out there.
They purr like a kitty cat at idle. They are smooth superb running engines everywhere. This is not what people expect to hear out of a Cobra, at least the old school guys. That said a Backdraft dealer has been putting Modulars and Coyotes in his Cobra's for years and he is a member on this site. Drawing a blank on his name.
400 Torque is not too shabby and it is flatter over a longer rpm range than a push rod engine. The size of the Coyote is huge. As big as a 460 in most directions, but shorter front to back. It is very wide and tall. The block is small, but the heads are massive. They house two camshaft per head.
They are a great engine, and if that floats your boat, so be it. Be prepared for smart ass, know it all, can't control their mouth, people talk to you and about you as if you stuck a Chevy engine in it. If you have thick skin and it doesn't bother you, or if you can kick the whole worlds ass, then go for it and be happy.
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You will note that the torque on the Coyote is pretty much what you can get out of a 347 stroker, actually a little less. The 347 stroker below 6000 will be similar but the Coyote will pull away in the top end. However a 347 stroker will pretty much bolt right in for a lot less total cost. You can build a lot stronger windsor stroker for about the same total money, most likely quite a bit less all said and done. It would still be a much easier to fit engine.
If you are set on a Coyote, I would look up the Backdraft dealer I mentioned.