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Old 05-22-2003, 03:54 PM
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Not to leave Evan out of the parsing exercise of his rebuttle to the response

[quote]Originally posted by REAL 1


[b]Dear Wilf: Thank you for the lesson. (what he really means is --- I will show you now.....that the Brits have no creativity and forethought with the car)

There can be no question of AC's role in the Cobra's original history. I am not trying to cheat the English from their rightful place in Cobra history. yes you are

Clearly the existence of the Cobra was an effort of teamwork between apple pie and biscuits. at least add in English breakfast tea or blood sausage or something

My point has simply been that without Shelby there would never have been a Cobra in any form. He had the idea; he had the gumption to approach Chevy and Ford; he worked tirelessly to create the car; to develope the 289; to refine it; to campaingn it and achieve two world championships with it. AC play little role in accomplishing this with the exceptioin of providing the body and platform. see comment above -- the slippery slope has been breached with max speed happening soooo

AC in 1961 was on a respirator. The AC was about to go the way of the T-Rex. AC welcomed the opprotunity Shelby brought them. It was a new lease on life for them and turned out to be a Godsend bringing life back to the company. oooonnnn -- Mach 1 acheived in 30 word or less -- not bad

Point of note. The AC's design has its genisis in the Tojerio special based itself on a Ferrari design. The Tojerio special that in essence became the AC Ace was based on LOY 500. I think it look more like a refined Cunningham before a Ferrari, but you do manage to slow the bashing a bit

I suspect if AC wasn't around ol' Shel might have accomplished his feat with someother chasis and donor. [/color] would we care though? Could he have transformed a Chevy Vega, Dodge Omni....oh he tried that one. The AC body added to the British allure which in part makes up the desireability of the car. Shelby could not have replicated (or orginated that presence)

As to the 427, in short Shelby and Miles created it and designed it with the help of Ford and Claus Arning. Not AC. AC was given the specs and asked to build it. You are in full cheat mode now -- approaching Mach 2 In fact from my understanding Shelby wanted to build the 427 in house but labor rates in England at the time were much more favorable.

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