[rdorman]

Not all Clevelands are four bolt mains. Even though the Cleveland has been out of production for 30 years in this country the Cleveland lived on in Australia until I beleive the mid 80's. Down under the Cleveland is IT! If I have my history straight Ford took a number of ideas from the Cleveland for the 460.

Go to Ebay and you can get every part you need for the Cleveland. Blocks, heads, etc are all available. Some one even makes a four valve over head cam setup for the Cleveland! Now that would be cool! Top that with four webbers or some stack injection, talk about a unique motor!

The block are the same 2 or 4 bolts but the caps are different (plus the holes for the extra bolts in the block). Some contend that the four bolts are not required.

Part choice is more limited and slightly more expensive. But the Cleveland looks better, IMHO, and is nearly bullit proof as it comes. Pro stocker turn 10,000 RPM using the stock cast crank and I have never heard of one breaking!

400 is a mild Cleveland. 2 barrel heads, Edelbrock performer, 600-650 holley and ford cam 6250 A 341 with compression under 9.5 (flat tops) will get you a very reliable 400. (this is my engine but it has the 4 barrell heads which are overkill). Motor just purrs along with a slight lope at idle.

450 is just a cam change, say lunati bracket master II and a blue thunder intake (the best street cleveland manifold hands down). This is probably where I am going next.

500, same cam, 4 barrell head, a bit more compression, a parker funnel web(maybe even stick with the blue thunder) and a slightly larger carb. Still VERY streetable engine. Motor will have a good lope, Idle just over 1000 and will SCREAM!!!

How about a 400 with Cleveland heads?

I have had a couple of Clevelands. They love to rev and refuse to quit! The Cleveland was designed and manufactured to be a racing engine. Ford got fed up with the Chevy folk laughing about Fords small block heads.

Winsors are good motors to, I just really like the Cleveland.

Rick