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Old 08-20-2003, 07:38 PM
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Ron: Very good point. However I would like to note what I have experienced on this subject.

I have noticed that many times in the past when the average Joe asked "is it real" they are indeed asking "is it an original 60's Cobra". Alot of people didn't know about the new Shelbys. But what I have also noticed is that when you told them its a new continuation series Cobra from SAI built to their exact 1965 specs and briefly explained the history of the car and the continuation series Cobras they became fascinated and excited with the car, their eyes widen and they started examining it even closer. Nearly everytime they clearly seemed to accept the car as a REAL Cobra. That was a year ago.

Today as more people seem to know or have read about SAI and the continuation series, more and more people seem to instantly know what the car is by its VIN# and you can over hear many refering to the car as the "REAL thing" a "REAL Shelby" the "new Continuation Cobra by Shelby" the "REAL deal". Many are even excited to see a new Continuation series Cobra. For some reason they also seem to be in awe when you tell them its an aluminum body Cobra. This has just been from my own personal observations at shows and local cruize nights where the average Joe sees the car. They seem to understand and recongnize that while its not an original '65 it is nevertheless a REAL Cobra . This is just what I've observed and experienced. I'm not saying what I've seen should be equated to a Zogby Poll however. Just my observations and experience.

Bandit 1: Maybe I missed something here but where did any CSX owner say the CSX was superior to the SPF? Please point it out.

What seems to be clear is that you keep toutng the SPF chasis as superior. I really don't care if it is because as far as I'm concerned if the original design was good enough to bring home 5 SCCA class A production titles its good enough for me. So lets not write the 427 off as a total failed racer because it wasn't.

While your engine I'm sure has killer power and is quite impressive, I would like to point out one small fact. Your "supercharged" monster motor is probably putting out more hp than any production Cobra did. It can't be compared to a production spec Cobra. While the Cobra was fast in its day, and is still very fast even by todays standards you are trying to compare apples to oranges. Its like comparing a 1970's vintage ZX 900 to the new Hyabusa as to power and accelaration. Whats your point? You have a car which looks like a Cobra but thats where it ends because its chasis, suspension and power train are off the "Cobra" spec charts. This is not a knock but merely pointing out what you have impliedly admitted too.

As to your claim that your car can out accelarate a Hyabusa, while I'm not calling you a liar I find such a claim incrediable knowing the shear brutal performance the Hyabusa is capable of. It is without question a near 200 mph bike. Can you offer proof of such capability? I would truely like to see it because if its true you have an amazing car as far a straight line accelaration.

Finally, and I think I requested this information from you in the past as to claims of SPF chasis superiority but never got an answer...where is your data and proof the SPF chasis is superior? Does it have superior torsional rigidity? If so what are the numbers compared to the CSX's original design chasis. What is superior about SPF suspension? Why do you claim an SPF handles better since they both have a 90 inch wheelbase?

Finally I would like to say I hope all this besting of Vipers and CSX's isn't occuring on the street but rather on the drag strip. I'd hate to see 650 hp at speed go out of control on the street.
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