[flipper35]

Kputz, I think that is what Richard was trying to do, just like how you said C&D does their test.

Rick, in the original thread it would be the same driver for all. Kinda hard to get a 'ringer' in there wouldn't you say?

I don't see what all the fuss is. If you are a mfr and feel you have a good product, show up. If you don't thinks it's worth it, don't.

Maybe Richard should have suggested the slalom, skid pad, and emergency lane change speeds as criteria. Na.