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08-22-2010, 05:48 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates Cobra, RFGT40
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Guys, I don't get why these are so hard to find. I thought they were put into trucks, Thunderbirds and a lot of other Ford products.
I ran 1970-71 0n Craig's list and got some hits. One was a 1972 T-bird for 250 bucks. There was a Galaxie 500. and a Merc with a 460 also. If you can get thes cars for a few hundred wouldn't that be a good way to go if you want a torque monster?
Hersh 
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08-22-2010, 06:13 PM
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i would rather not drag home a whole car if i dont have to.....but a free 460 OOOHHH YYEEAAHH
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08-23-2010, 06:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2124
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It's telling you something....
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Originally Posted by 133bus
..... and there was a snake skin under the valve pan cover(true).
Steve
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^ I think your answer is right there....this engine is destined for a Cobra..LOL.
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08-23-2010, 07:43 AM
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Location: Florence,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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I have a Performance Automotive Warehouse catalog (2005) that list a rebuild kits for 429 - 460 from $851 to $1048.
kit includes: crank, rods, pistons, rings, bearings, cam, lifters, oil pump, timing chain and gear.
I have heard that the 429/460 is the cheapest Ford motor to rebuild.
Now I would not want a lot of the parts in the kit, but you could build a mild motor with a butt load of torque for a very little money.
At one horse per cubic, you would have 460 hp.
600 hp from a 460 would be easy.
Great motor.
Dwight
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08-23-2010, 08:31 AM
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A stroker crank kit,set of aluminum heads,intake and water pump,a decent fuel mixer,top it off with a good ignition and you have a fine air pump to move you down the highway smartly.Make sure whatever you decide on for compression your cam choice optimizes it.
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08-23-2010, 08:35 AM
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I'm running a special on Scat/Probe stroker kits right....this would be a good candidate for one. They're all the same price....so go big...  552/557 cubes is easy. I'm building one right now for my own personal Mustang. |
08-23-2010, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
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...there was a snake skin under the valve pan cover...
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Probably a CobraJet, then. Sorry.
Paul 
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08-23-2010, 12:06 PM
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Brent, when did you get a Mustang?
What happened to the vette?
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08-23-2010, 01:49 PM
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Dave, you ask me the same question everytime we talk.
I haven't had the Corvette in 3 years.... |
08-23-2010, 01:52 PM
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Just finished removing the head on the driver side and as I suspected the news isn't good...there are windows in #7 and #8 cylinders...soooo I guess this is the end of this thread...I'm a little disappointed but like I said all I have in it is some gas money and an afternoon of wrenching...which is entertainment to me.Thanks for all your comments.I'm always scrounging around so if I find anything else I'll let you know.
PS: If I can figure out how to put pics on here I'll post some...including the snakeskin.
Steve
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08-23-2010, 02:02 PM
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Steve......thats to bad.......better luck next time..
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08-24-2010, 05:19 AM
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bus...
Post pictures. Any way that you can sleeve the cylinders? Or are you just going to look for another block?
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08-24-2010, 07:13 AM
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Brent,I'm going to see if I can put some pics up today(not real good at that stuff)...as for the motor,it's not a CJ or SCJ just a plane Jane 429,so I imagine the cost could get out of hand real quick...I allready have a 351W with a mild cam and 1968 closed chambered heads in my build...I just thought that with a little luck it would be fun to work at this 429 for the future...what dose sleaving a cylinder cost?
Steve
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08-24-2010, 07:16 AM
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Not worth sleeving a plain jane 429/460 unless you've got a fully machined piece that you are repairing. Around here a sleeve installation runs around a hundred bucks per hole
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08-24-2010, 07:27 AM
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I've been having trouble finding good 429/460 cores around here. When I do find them, the sellers either want $150-200 for a bare block, or more for a rebuildable core.
It's just a matter of what's available to you and how affordable the machine work is.
Finding a free block is certainly a step ahead....
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08-24-2010, 09:22 AM
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I was all excited when I say the block ID..D1VE 6015 AA which is suspost to be a CJ block...but after doing some research and found that alot of plane Janes also had the same marking by a factory mistake..I took a closer look and found that this block has the narrow webbing instead of the wider webbing on the CJ blocks...even so it wouldn't cost any thing to make a couple of phone calls.
Steve
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08-24-2010, 09:27 AM
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Remember that a 460 block isn't your typical Ford block. If you're aiming for anywhere under 800hp or so, this block (or any other) would be perfectly fine.
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08-25-2010, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
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I'm running a special on Scat/Probe stroker kits right....this would be a good candidate for one. They're all the same price....so go big... 552/557 cubes is easy. I'm building one right now for my own personal Mustang. |
I have a spare 460 motor, have thought about a big stroker.Why I hesitate is how easy this 460 slides in a turn with a tad too much wick.Can only imagine what whacking the loud pedal must feel like with 100 more cubes.What kind of numbers with say a 557"?Maybe somebody would want my motor. |
08-25-2010, 06:45 AM
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Depending on the heads and cam....anywhere from 675-800hp. It's easy to get power out of them. A set of P51 heads and a mildish solid roller will get you 725-750 pretty easily without revving the engine high.
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08-25-2010, 08:37 PM
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Steve i just had a sleeve put in a 390 for my kids car and it was an extra 75 bucks for the sleeve and to install it......so on a free motor you may just come out about even if you would have given a couple of hundred for it.....maybe you may want to rethink your decision to junk it.........
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