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02-17-2004, 10:43 PM
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switch flywheel do I need?
Replacing the C6 behind my 460 with a toploader. The flexplate that is leaving has 164 teeth. I see flywheels for 460's and they all seem to be 184 tooth. Is this the one I want?...will it work with the same starter used on the C6? Thanks, Bill
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02-18-2004, 01:43 AM
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Hi Bill,
I believe it depends of your bellhousing type (that fix the exact starter location). Have you change it to install your new toploader transmission?
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02-18-2004, 05:18 AM
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Bill,
The flywheel has to match the bell you are using. If the bell is the correct size the starter will work just fine. Trial fit the flywheel and bell before you install the trans. Look in the hole for the trans to see how the start lines up. It should be very close to the teeth. If it is not you have the wrong flywheel or bell.
The only flywheel listed for the 460 by Ford has 176 teeth. Hope this helps in some small way.
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02-18-2004, 09:36 PM
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Thanks guys, I was hoping there was a definitive answer. But nothing as fun as owning/driving one of these cars, is ever easy. Thanks, Bill
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02-19-2004, 07:27 PM
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woooooooooooooooooo,stop stop,
first, what year is ur 460,if u have older 460,per78,
(in late 78 they made a balance change,it was changed to a ext balance)
now for the size, if u use a real 429 bell,the flywhell is bigger,which if u have a late crank in ur engine,the flywheel will need to be rebalanced,now if u use a 351m or 400 bell (d7te most of the time) all u need is a 390 flywheel, ive done thease over a 100 times,also the starter is the same for 429 460,stick or auto,just like 351m and 400, now if u use a lake wood sheild ull see 2 patterns for starter,this is for large(real 429 fly) or the smaller 390 flywheel,,i dont want to confuse ,so if u give me more details ,ill narrow it down for u ,to the one u need,
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hope this helps
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02-25-2004, 04:48 PM
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wboss429, "if that's really your name ", I just saw your reply and I can use all the help you and everyone else can give me. Because my motor will never see any high rpm's and... "I'm cheap", I'm intending to use a stock bellhousing "D9TA 7505-BA". It measures 6 1/4 inches deep between mating surfaces. My motor has no weight behind the balancer and there were no weights on the flex plate. Guess that makes my motor internally balanced. I hope this helps "you", help me. Thanks a million, Bill
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02-25-2004, 09:11 PM
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ok ,kool then, use a d9t bell,a 390 fly(with no weight on it,and ur set............................,
ull love it
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02-25-2004, 11:19 PM
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OK, but now this makes me wonder. Is a 390 flywheel the same as other FE flywheels, or does it have to be a 390? And why do I want this one and not the 184 tooth/ zero balance/ 460 flywheels that I see advertised? In other words, "why this particular flywheel?" Sorry to be a pest but I'm a curious type. Thanks for educating me, Bill
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02-26-2004, 06:26 PM
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heres why.........................
the std 390 wheel is net balance,and the correct o.d.
for the 351 m or 400 bell,theres no spacer needed, no mods at all,
bolt on starter and go,ive seen so many poeple have problems w/this swap,its easy,dont worry................
rem u caint use 428cj or scj wheel, ext balance
do u need one?
wb
ps just look on back of wheel,make sure theres no weight,if there is u must have it re balance,let me know if u need more info
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03-05-2004, 11:10 PM
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I've been gone, "helped the finances of some Vegas casinos". Looking at McLeod's catalog I see their 390 flywheel measures 15.503"s/184 teeth and a 460 flywheel, 15.520"s/176 teeth. A very small difference. I bought the D9TA 7505-DA bellhousing under the impression it was "from" a 460. Is it?, or is it only "from" a 351/400? I know it'll fit both. If so then does that mean only the 390 flywheel will work? Or last and most important...would a 460/zero balance/184 tooth flywheel fit with my bellhousing? Sorry for all the questions, but a "little knowledge" can be dangerous. I don't want to be. Thanks again, Bill
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03-23-2004, 09:01 PM
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ok heres where to much info can get u in trouble,if ur bell is from a 351/400 then use a 390 wheel and dont worry,this is y so many poeple get into trouble w/this swap,no one knows what parts there using,if u use a 460 flywheel then u need a 460 bell,then the block sheild wont fit either.........................
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