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HHStang · #41 (**permalink**) 05-27-2004, 01:15 PM

(Sarcasm ?), I thought he meant it. I've never seen a Camaro like that. Sounds like a really cool idea though. Chrome valve covers, hmmmm? Mike

MidOHasp · #42 (**permalink**) 05-27-2004, 03:07 PM

Chrome valve covers are worth at least 4 tenths down the 1320 (that's 1/4 mile for those of you that are not as well versed in the whole racing business as us windsor motor owners)........

Fake stripes are worth another 2 tenths. But the stripes and valve covers work synergistically and the two together are actually worth a full second and 15 MPH.

Trust me. I know.

HHStang · #43 (**permalink**) 05-27-2004, 03:11 PM

are you admitting you owned a bowtie? You could be removed from board I think.

MidOHasp · #44 (**permalink**) 05-27-2004, 03:29 PM

Noooo..... I've never owned a bowtie. But my buddy has a really bad-a$$ '76 Monte Carlo with the 2bbl 350 on it and he put chrome valve covers on it and was immediately running in the low 13's.

I've never owned a chebby, but I've cleaned up lots of oil from them before.

fastedy · #45 (**permalink**) 06-02-2004, 01:44 PM

Byron

on a 2-2002 post you reported that your car is a wcc (18-82) but
you now cannot find a wcc hull tag to confirm this.

do you not have a manfactures MSO for this car, and have you
been able to find the chassis serial #?

if you don't have these two items how do you register and
title the car in california?

ByronRACE · #46 (**permalink**) 06-21-2004, 02:24 PM

In my case, after failing to find a way to positively ID the chassis, I simply presented my purchase reciept for the bulk of the parts that comprised the bulk of the car...they called these "components" and categorized the car as scratch-built.

But, since there was significant evidence that the car was a West Coast Cobra, they put WCC as "model" in my title/reg paperwork. However, they refused to use the WCC number I located as the VIN, since the evidence of said number couldn't be seen anywhere other than the impressions on a yellowed slip of paper...with no matching numbers anywhere on the car. So, they sent me to the CHP. The CHP will assign a VIN number once the car is roadworthy, stamp that number onto a VIN plate, and rivet that vin plate to the frame.

I left out a few things. First, the car came with 5 yellowed books labeled "Stallion". Each book was labeled (with black marker) "Engine", "Chassis", "Suspension", and so on and contain a mixture of hand-written and type-written instructions, as well as many photo-copies from other sources such as Ford manuals for the common sub-components. Inside these books, many references were made to both "Stallion" and "West Coast Cobra". In one of the books, what we believe may have been the original MSO was found; which appeared to have been duplicated on a mimograph machine. One side was legible and looked like the instructions for how to fill out the other side. Unfortunately, the other side was completely bleached white. At the top of this form, you could make out an impression of a WCC-XXXX number, which I carefully recorded. Along with this, I other original paperwork was found pertaining to the purchase from a long-defunct West Coast dealer in the Los Angeles area, as well as the original purchase price information, etc.

Through my searching I found Vern at West Coast Cobra, who informed me that the WCC number I found one one of the documents sounds legitimate, but he couldn't help me cross it or confirm it. He did say, however, that if it was a West Coast Cobra, this number would be stamped into a frame rail. I've been over every inch of this chassis. It simply isn't there. It's possible that it was welded-over by the original owner. I've learned that there are additional structual members added to this chassis by that owner; so perhaps it is under one of those members or destroyed by a weld. I don't know...and I'm not about to tear the frame down to find it, so it will remain a mystery. I'm content enough with the information I have...It's most likely a 1981 West Coast Cobra. There are doubts, however. I've sent pictures to Vern on multiple occasions asking questions about various fitment issues such as the pedal assembly, and he has replied stating "That's not West Coast stuff...". So, I guess I really don't know what I have. Whatever it is; it's fine with me. I'm making it my own anyhow.

Byron

fastedy · #47 (**permalink**) 06-22-2004, 05:46 PM

bryon

does the name "michael grant" show up on any of the pages of
those 5 assembly manuals? they would be in the lower left
corner of the page with a date under it.

ByronRACE · #48 (**permalink**) 06-22-2004, 05:50 PM

I'm 99% sure the answer is YES. That sounds extremely familiar; I remember seeing his signature.

What can you tell me about this?

HHStang · #49 (**permalink**) 06-22-2004, 06:18 PM

Byron: What info can you give me on you EFI? I may be seeking an affordable system if blow through proves unbearable to tune. Thanks, Mike

fastedy · #50 (**permalink**) 06-23-2004, 03:48 PM

bryon

Is the heater in your car based on a ford courier heater/blower
motor assembly?

ByronRACE · #51 (**permalink**) 06-25-2004, 11:04 AM

Ford Courier Heater; I think so, yes.

ByronRACE · #52 (**permalink**) 06-25-2004, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HHStang

Byron: What info can you give me on you EFI? I may be seeking an affordable system if blow through proves unbearable to tune. Thanks, Mike

My EFI is based on 93 Mustang stuff. Mass-Air, Blow-Thru (via Univer; the only maf that works correctly in a blow-thru ap), modified drivers for low-impedance, tuned with the Autologic system and my SnEEC-IV datalogger. The '93 Mustang stuff can handle injectors up to 110lb/hr and massflow up to 4500kg/hr. It's a perfect low buck hot-rod EFI platform for 1200hp and down combos. I'll be running full open-loop, no o2's, EGR, CanP, none of that. I've added hardware to the EEC to control the cooling fan, provide a shift light, etc. My dash is a single 12.1" sunlight viewable LCD display, controlled by an industrial fanless PC about the size of a VCR tape, and running a modified version of my SnEEC-IV datalogger software for the data aquisition and display. The dash is so simple, it's freaky looking. On switch, display, and start button. That's it. My ignition key is a USB thumb drive.

B

fastedy · #53 (**permalink**) 06-25-2004, 02:56 PM

byron

michael grant was a major player (v.p.) of the red stallion ltd.
company and two other companys after stallion closed its
operations in 1980. He was the person that wrote the
manuals that you have, and the manual that I have.

question: is your windshield frame
and glass original to the kit(1981)
or aftermarket?

if it is original could you post 2 photos on this thread,1 of the drivers side
windshield post taken from the left front wheel.2 a full frame
photo of the DOT marking on the glass.

ByronRACE · #54 (**permalink**) 06-25-2004, 03:05 PM

Is Mr. Grant still with us? Any idea where he is today?

Yes, the windshield is original. I spent the better part of 2 weeks worth of evenings cleaning it. It was still wrapped in packing tape, masking tape, duct tape, jute rope, etc...after having the butyl rubber put around the perimeter. Stored like this for eons...what a friggin mess!. I thought I'd never get it clean.

I'll get the pictures you're after. The drivers lower front corner of the glass is internally delaminating. I inquired with West Coast about a new windshield and the cost was not significant. Under $300, if I remember correctly...including the frame. My current plan is to try to inject some of that "windshield repair" stuff they use to fill rock-chip fractures. My hope is that this will fill the delaminating void and stop it from increasing.

Byron

oleyellar · #55 (**permalink**) 06-26-2004, 09:19 AM

Your car looks great! I was curious if you would be willing to reveal the source for the valve covers that are on your engine. I saw them for sale once and did not get them, now, I can no longer find the source. The name or phone number would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, and good luck with your car.

ByronRACE · #56 (**permalink**) 06-29-2004, 02:27 PM

They are Blue Thunder covers; cast aluminum; and a little unusual but worth the extra effort to obtain. I also have 4 unvented billet caps with o-ring seals. The caps come either vented or unvented, and are threaded. Two of my caps will be connected to an evac system when I'm done. The covers are internally baffled as well. Make sure you get the hardware (bolts, washers, and ask for SPARES!). The fasteners they use are long allen key bolts and replacing them is a real pain should you ever need to. Most standard breathers, etc do NOT fit the threaded breather cap holes. You'll have to do your own drill/tap job or order the caps already threaded...or have the company that provides the valve covers provide the breathers and fit them up for you in advance; it'll save the headache.

www.enginesystems.com is my preferred blue thunder dealer.

Byron