Main Menu
|
Nevada Classics
|
Advertise at CC
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
20 |
21 |
22 |
23 |
24 |
25 |
26 |
27 |
28 |
29 |
30 |
|
CC Advertisers
|
|
04-19-2007, 01:01 AM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 4
|
|
Not Ranked
572 Stroker Power
I just finished a 572 stroker based 460 motor. I am curious about the power and torque I should expect of this motor. I am new here and have enjoyed reading the many amazing insights this family has expressed regarding the 385series Ford motors.
Here are some specifics about my motor:
1) 850 cfm Mighty Demon Carb with 1 " spacer
2) Weiand Stealth CJ intake port matched to cyl heads with plenum divider knife edged.
3) Factory iron CJ heads(DOOE-R) with new undercut stem valves, hardened exhaust seats, thermactor bumps removed from exhaust ports and mild pocket porting on both the intake and exhaust pockets
4) 254/264 duration at 0.050" lift with .605" lift using 1.8 ratio roller rocker arms--hydraulic flat tappet cam.
5) 11.25:1 compression ratio
6) 1 3/4" primary full length headers to 3" collectors and 3" exhaust pipes.
Any guesses on HP and torque at given RPM's?
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Don
|
04-19-2007, 06:23 AM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
KY
Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
Posts: 9,417
|
|
Not Ranked
I'm assuming a 4.5" bore and a 4.5" stroke with this combo. Engine Analyzer Pro is showing about 550hp @ 5500 rpm and 600 lb-ft at 4000 rpm.
Your heads and cam are a real bottleneck to this engine. There's just not enough there to feed 572 ci.
I have a feeling that with a set of Kaase/Ford Racing SCJ heads and a large duration roller cam, you could see 700-750hp pretty easily.
Last edited by blykins; 04-19-2007 at 06:36 AM..
|
04-19-2007, 01:39 PM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 4
|
|
Not Ranked
Thanks for your input. Right now, my budget limits me to the conservative hydraulic flat tappet cam and DOOE-R heads. Down the road, however, I will be looking at an upgrade of the intake, heads and cam. What specs of a roller cam would put this motor in the 700-750 hp range? What kind of cost would be involved by switching to a roller cam and lifters?
P.S. The bore and stroke are 4.5"x4.5" as you guessed.
Don
|
04-19-2007, 02:17 PM
|
|
Senior Club Cobra Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Augustine,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M / Power Performance / 521 stroker / Holley HP EFI
Posts: 1,926
|
|
Not Ranked
__________________
Wells's law of engine size: If it matters what gear you're in, the engine's too small!
|
04-19-2007, 03:00 PM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
KY
Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
Posts: 9,417
|
|
Not Ranked
I've built Windsors and I've built FE's, but I've not built a 385 series engine yet. Tom's suggestion of hopping onto the 460 forum would be a good one.
Roller cams and lifters will probably add $350-400 to your bill, but it's all for a very worthy cause.
Lots of duration will help that engine breathe, but it will also move your powerband up higher. I assume you're putting this in a Cobra, so the light weight will help you here.
My guess is that a cam with a duration at .050" in the 270/280's range with a lift of about .700-.750 will get you there if the head flow is good enough to back it up.
When you get to the cam-purchasing point, you can give Keith Craft a call and he could point you in the perfect direction.
I know all about budgets...I had to make a lot of shortcuts on my 428....but they're fun just the same. You can always save your pennies and add on later!
|
04-20-2007, 12:54 AM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 4
|
|
Not Ranked
Actually, this motor is going into a restored 1977 F-100 SWB 2WD truck. I do have a dream of having a powerplant of this size in a Cobra in the future. Thanks to each of you who responded.
Don
|
04-20-2007, 10:25 PM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 1
|
|
Not Ranked
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Redden
Thanks for your input. Right now, my budget limits me to the conservative hydraulic flat tappet cam and DOOE-R heads. Down the road, however, I will be looking at an upgrade of the intake, heads and cam. What specs of a roller cam would put this motor in the 700-750 hp range? What kind of cost would be involved by switching to a roller cam and lifters?
P.S. The bore and stroke are 4.5"x4.5" as you guessed.
Don
|
These engines love to make power. In a previous job I had, we ran some big cubic inch Fords and they never disappointed us.
Also looks like you are using every bit of cfm of your carb, but unless its strickly a race engine, I wouldn't worry about it too much. When we watched the A/F - BSFC when pulling over a carbs cfm, they tend to go rich a little.
|
04-25-2007, 02:35 AM
|
CC Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 4
|
|
Not Ranked
Thanks for the neat dyno graft. I will "uncork" this stroker beast ASAP with the use of deep breathing heads, lg single pane intake and large duration roller cam as soon as possible.
Don
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:40 AM.
Links monetized by VigLink
|