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Old 03-31-2004, 12:13 PM
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Hey...I know you didn't mean to ruffle feathers...no problem on this end. But, known to you or not...your inquiry served to point out some issues to other potential owners...issues that unless a newby (such as yourself) are aware of, they may bite you in your asp.....so to speak.

One of those issues is a "level playing field". And potential owners who come to Club Cobra looking for information deserve nothing less if they are going to make up their minds for themselves. Brent bills Club Cobra as "The Largest Independent Cobra Site in the World", or words to the effect. But, when a replica manufacturer comes to the forum and presents blatantly false data....things like "Why would you buy a such-n-such, when my product is not only better, it's cheaper"... well, that just sticks in everyone's craw....and when you pick on MY brand of replicar, then I take it personally. Of course, there may be a reason why they all use Superformance as a reference mark...I don't know, but I have my own suspicions....

To say PMS is less expensive than an SPF replicar may be true. But, we're not comparing apples and apples here. In fact....we're really comparing hamburger and filet....and there's really NO COMPARISON. The items I pointed out that are standard on an SPF for your $39.9K, appear to be 'options' on a PMS replica. And, if you want to level the playing field so we can compare 'apples to apples' then one must add the additional options to the PMS to level the field. And according to their own web site, the options are priced as I indicated....which brings their replicar roller to the bottom line of over $50K...and you'd still have to put an engine and drive train in it! Try as he might, Bobl still hasn't refuted that comparison...even though he has taken the time to reply directly to me offline - he still didn't refute my contention that to make his PMS car equitable to an SPF, it would be more expensive than an SPF.

Then someone else posts that PMS performance times and measurements don't exactly add up.

And, since I'm a member of the Superformance Owners Forum and know pretty much all the other guys/gals on the forum, I have a problem with Bobl's "90%" figure.

Bottom line is that none of PMS' math seems to work like math in other parts of the country. PMS may indeed make a fine replica, I don't know....but, what I do know from what I've seen is that they seem to 'stretch the truth' (...or practice 'puffing') a little from time to time...and I think potential owners and newbys such as yourself deserve far more than that when they come to Club Cobra looking for truthful, unbiased information....and, put plain and simple, PMS is not providing that kind of information.

Based on what I've read here, if I were in the market for a new replica, I'd elect to exclude PMS from my list right off the git-go.

And...based on my own and others ownership experiences with Superformance cars...I would indeed place them on my Oh-so-short list.

Tell ya what, let's let you see for yourself....come to Double Venom Spring Fling in June in London, Ohio. You'll get a chance to see virtually every Cobra-replica manufacturer's cars there...two, three, and sometimes more of most...but, certainly just about one of everything. Not only Superformance, but Unique, ERA, Shell Valley, Lone Star, Kirkham, Shelby, RUCC...hell, you name it...someone will be driving one of just about everything. Then, without the manufacturers boastful claims echoing in your head, you can talk to each owner and ask him/her what they like/don't like about their car....and also inquire about ownership experiences before, during, and after the sale, and so on. There's no better place to see as many Cobra replicas in one place at one time than at DVSF. Plus, you'll get a chance to meet a lot of the folks that regularly post here on Club Cobra...and who knows? but you may even get a chance to share in the parking lot madness that takes place each night...BUT...stay away from the Capitol Area Cobra Club boys...them boys ain't right, I'm tellin' ya....they just ain't right in the head! Plus, you'll have no problems getting a ride with most anyone you may ask, so you can evaluate each model for yourself.

Holler if you need more information...better yet, use the Search function here on CC and look for 'DVSF'...you'll find a wealth of information.

Hope this helps...take it light...and let us know if we can help you decide. I've already admitted I'm an SPF bigot, so you know what I'm going to say... But, we hope we'll all be able to help you distinguish the truth from the vaporware...
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