[MidOHasp]

Jack and Turk,

I'll bet if you sat down and hashed it out, you'd find you don't disagree too much. I think Turk is saying that no matter what it may have evolved into, the FLING was not intended to be a charity event.

If I have 10 people over to my place and ask them all for $5 to offset the price of beer, and I end up with money left over at the end, first, we didn't drink enough beer. Second, it was not a fundraiser. Even after I go back and try to disburse the leftover $$ to everyone, and they refuse, it's still not a JP fundraiser.

The fling has evolved into what it has evolved into. Do you think that is what everyone really wants? Hmmm....I'd be willing to be that if everyone were satisfied with the course it has run, there would not be 6 pages here, growing every day.

So, the fling has evolved into what it is. Ed's party for Team Jenny and CF. That's not what the fling is, I'm SORRY. Again, if it we're Ed's party, he'd be hosting it and paying for it. I don't think anyone expects or wants that. What Ed has done is take a small gathering and turn it into something we can all enjoy. That happened over the course of the first two years. Since then, the fling done all growed up. Too much. What people want is for it to go back to NOT being Ed's party for Team Jenny and CF.

I want Ed to respond here and say if he is interested in taking our suggestions and doing them justice. I, personally, am not interested, in hearing about how all of these ideas are great, but that we just can't pull it off and the fling will continue as it has. Pull what off? That's the point. Let's minimize what needs to be pulled off.

Ed, do you want a part of this? Speak up soon. We are not here trying to tell you to go away. If we were, we'd say, "Ed, go away." We are pretty vocal people. If you want to take our suggestions and make this happen, let's do it. Soon. If you don't like the direction of things, or don't feel like it coincides with your vision of the fling, then nobody will think the lesser of you if you say, "i'll take a pass this year."

But either way, you have to have an opinion of some sort.

Rick seems to have a great idea of how to flow the weekend. Looks like registration fee will probably be a necessity. AutoX on Saturday will work better than Friday. Leave evenings open for taquilla snorting and lie telling. I see this as sort of a revolution back to where it all started. I see that as a VERY positive thing.