DV goes on basic diatribe about my inexperience w/ the Fling…
JP:
Ed, you say a little later,
”It WAS NOT a slam or dig against you in any way. Only wishing you had been here from the beginning.” Fair enough, but it’s about the way you present something. Here is how you’ve presented it so far, and I don’t think I’m really taking much out of context.
Forgive me for shooting straight, but wasn't Fling IV your first Fling with a Cobra? I think you and your Dad attended the event on Saturday for the III. Forgive me if I'm wrong. All I'm saying is you have missed a lot of growing pains fella.
Fair enough. I was offended then, but I can see how you meant it well. I’m reasonable like that.
JP, fella you do not have a clue! (Please re-read page 8 of this thread where I posted about your lack of knowledge about the Fling.)
Well, a little more harsh. I could see that it may be innocent, but think I’m reasonable for taking very personal offense at this point.
JP, do you know the original DVSF was to be four hours only on a Sunday afternoon? Of course you don’t, you weren’t around then. Do you know that the first Fling was to be in the central U.S. in a ‘Wal-Mart’ parking lot? Of course you don’t. Did you know that Dr. ‘D’ (Semko) is ‘the’ one that suggested that we hold it at my small shop? Nope, don’t reckon you knew that either. Did you know because of the “family” that the first Fling was instantly turned into a full day event on Sunday and then to both Saturday and Sunday, before I could even respond to the first, ‘all day’ Sunday post? Of course not…
First, that’s kind of an asshole way to put all of that, and I know you are not that. Second, you’re just wrong on all accounts! I knew ALL of that. I know Dan Semko fairly well, thanks. He and I have talked off-line about this stuff plenty. Trust me, as far as history of the Fling goes, I’m well versed.
I didn’t live through the Protestant Reformation or fight in the Revolutionary War, but I do know a LOT about both of those things.
DV:
Tell me JP, just who are the “few” locals? Are you one of the “few” locals? Me thinks, YOU THINK YOU ARE. Check Hotfingers post on page 16. Obviously, I am NOT the only on that thinks so too!
Well, if I could actually put something fun together for everyone while sitting in Cleveland, Ohio, where I live, I’d be HAPPY to! But no, that’s not who I meant. I meant people who have already shown their ability to help out like Rick Dorman! Maybe Mike Braatz or Frank Forestiere! Or many of the other Central Ohio guys that are really talented! But of course I’d never say NO if asked for help – just like last year!! Didn’t end up getting to make any real vital contributions, but I was there willing to help if you remember!!
I know you and Jack aren’t the only two people who think this is my plot to take over the world, but you and Jack and those others are wrong. Everyone is wrong about something, Lord knows I’m not going to hold it against you or Jack or anyone else. I hope to be able to shake hands and have a beer with any or all of you next year. But just because a couple of people have publicly said they think I’m trying to take the damned thing over, doesn’t mean I am – in the slightest.
DV:
By the way I wouldn’t dare “PM” you as you suggested, it needs to be done here.
JP:
Touche’
I’m glad it’s public. You said what many are thinking about me. I’m responding honestly, and if some still feel that way after this, it’s gonna remain that way. Short of anything unreasonably nasty or wrong said to or about me, this is my last post here – unless of course Dorman gets me riled up about something…
DV responding to Clayhouse’s posts. LMAO!! Clay, you have a new nickname.
JP:
DV, Clay is a friend of mine and I think was trying to keep me on course. Obviously, he didn’t do a real good job of that – he made me look like a basturd. I can’t fault him for that because I know his heart is in the right place. JPSF? Jesus. At that point I should have just said “OK, I’m leaving this thread forever!!” I had expressed to him, a friend, that I was unsure about what was going on in this thread. He said a couple of things that I think hurt me here. He apparently doesn’t know me well enough yet that I have the whole “making myself look like an asshole” thing under control.
In closing, I hope it has become more obvious that I’ve just not been the best at asking questions without sounding accusatory. Ed has rekindled the offer to ask the questions and to expect a direct answer. Is it OK for me to look at the numbers that I have been given and to say, “I need more information. Option E, not enough information to answer the question. Neccesito mas informaccion, por favor.” ?? I’ve had a chance to go back, look at all I’ve said and realize that maybe it’s sounded like I’ve made some outright accusations. I don’t want to do that. I just want to know how it all works, just like the ol’ washing machine.
Ed, if you have anything more to say that is angry or mad or something, I think having responded opinions here amply, we can take the rest off line. Trust me when I say if you want to call me, or will accept a call from me, I think it can be civil, friendly, or more. I don’t hold grudges. Sorry if I’ve done anything here that would make someone hold one against me.
PEACE
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Matter of fact, anyone who wants to chew me up is welcome! I'm a big boy! Especially after all the halloween candy at work today! I do mean well, here, and I'm not good at it! I don't think I should burn in hell over it...
But Ed, if you want to bring closure to this, here, privately, hell I don't care - that's what I want. I want to know how it all works, where it all goes, and I want to be friends with everyone. At least civil, friendly acquaintances!!!
