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Old 11-10-2004, 11:43 AM
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I think Doc hasn't been too exagerative... His title states his BDR outran a Shelby. Apparently the Shelby was in the same group, driving on the same track, on the same day. I would consider his BDR stock, considering a crate Ford motor - and the motor isn't huge by any means. And about the brakes - I know Hal Baer of BAER brakes and in my conversations with him, rotors of the same diameter are not a big improvement in stopping distance, more in the area of reducing fade in repeated stops (so unless the Shelby was experiencing brake fade this is not really a big deal). Tires: well here again, the hoosiers Doc runs are DOT tires, not slicks. They do work really well, but I can tell you anyone not running sticky tires in a track event should be... It is flat dangerous not to. Even a stock car, when running on a track, should use track tires - period - thats why they make them.
Additionally, we all know that a small motored car isn't disadvantaged at all in the corners. Apparently Doc was stacking up behind folks in the corners. Even on straights, if the small motored car exits the last corner going faster and/or on a better line, it can and will achieve the same top speed (provided the straight is not particularly long) and have a better time down the total straight.
Any car can outrun any other car on a given day. I think Doc is saying: on this day, on this track, in this group, I outran the Shelby car. Why is this so offensive to so many of you? Sour grapes I think... Good for Doc. Hope you had a great time.

Think about it. If a car breaks in a race (maybe it is the fastest car in the world) and DNFs: Does the winner walk over and hand the trophy to the driver of the broken car or does he celebrate the fact that on that day, his and his team's overall performance was a winning one?



BTW, the last time I was at PIR here, I outran a McLaren F1. That doesn't mean the McLaren isn't capable of outrunning me. But on that track, on that day I smoked him. We were both in the same Beginners group. We both had the same opportunity to go as fast as we could - and I ran faster. What do you wanna say about that? I suspect I'll get a lot of "well, if..." BS, but guess what, reality isn't about "well, if..." I was there, and I went past that McLaren F1 like it was standing still and I'm still smilin'

Have a nice day.
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