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Old 03-04-2005, 11:04 AM
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"The reason builders don't work on the Demon carburetors is the design of the unit does not allow certain modifications that most builders like to perform to improve performance."
Exactly, they don't need it for 90% of the intended applications.

"with "shiny" appeal"
When you use modern casting methods and superior materials the finished product is smooth and somewhat shiny and doesn't require any brown flat coating to seal it.

"carb for the kids"
We're all kids at heart, our toy cars just get bigger....:-))

"against the people at Holley"
Not at all, but I do have a grudge against Federal Mongrel and the way they treat their employee's and their Customers. Their attempt at controlling the performance aftermarket isn't working out that well for any of us.

I snuck over to your website, very impressive looking stuff! And…. probably every bit as good or better in allot of cases than a box stock Demon. But in your own immortal words:
" Listen to him, because sometimes a voice of experience is more valuable than a voice of theory based assumption."

You have obviously found a very exclusive niche in the market and are probably successful due to your research, development and ability to take a raw product and refine it to a very high level of performance and market it to a relatively elite group.

Your pricing on what I looked at, is very competitive, many so called "Carb Modifiers" who basically just add a bunch of Chinese parts to a Holley and sell it for (or try to at least) to an unsuspecting customer base with little or no knowledge of what they're actually getting for their money. Your Company seems far beyond that level.

Holley is a Division of Federal Mogul, which is a publicly traded company, if you review their annual report and the profitability expectations of FM divisions you'll see that Holley is one of the companies that is struggling to keep with those parameters. It's no secret that Holley is for sale and has been for at least 3 years now and a few suitors have looked at it closely, but no offers have been made public that I'm aware of anyhow.

If you study the FM balance sheet you'll see they had a net loss per share of $1.39 in 2003 and a net loss of $3.07 per share in 2004. Some pretty competant people run FM and they will turn it around, we just don't know what things may change to accomplish that.

Will Holley go away? I don't honestly think so, will they possibly change Leadership, maybe and hopefully it'll be a great improvement at the product AND employee level.

"I doubt that Holley will be around in 5 years as we know it today. "

Read every word "As we know it today", hopefully it will get better, with more design changes, modern casting methods, new machining processes, more product diversity, better customer support.

Do I work for BG? No, but we've also found our niche, take the best "Corporate Carb" on the Market, add top customer service and technical assistance to this largest sector of the Market....The Street and occasional Bracketeer group who are not professional racers, tuners or mechanics. Get them going for under $500 with a carb that will perform to 90% of the engines capability and be trouble free.

Your customers may have had "Varying results" we race, drive and tune Demons everyday and have for 11 years our results are not varied, the new Demon line of carburetors are by our hands on experience the best bang for the buck when correctly selected and tuned, without any modifications.

If I was a Stock Eliminator racer or out to set a Land Speed Record I would have no issues at all with bolting one of your units on my car and I have no doubt that between the two us we could accomplish some very impressive results.

But, like almost everyone else here I'm a bracket racer, I change my dial-in as the day goes on, not my jets and tune-up. Setting a speed record is not a priority, I want dependability and consistancy and be able to relax when I go to the track, not tune the car in the staging lanes.

Thank You for reading... and I respect your opinions as well as what you've accomplished. I've Bookmarked your site and no doubt I'll be referring customers to you for your special applications.

Everyone have a nice weekend, our track opens in 6 hours for testing I'm going out to load up.
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