[Fredhead]

Micheal4Yah was just trying to warn the rest of you guys that Coleman may not be on the level. I have no vested interest in this group buy anymore, as I ordered my lift from Autolifters 2 days ago after talking to Richard, the sales manager at Autolifters.
I just read the posts on the Cobra website, and want to make it clear that Richard of Autolifters asked Michael4Yah to post that information to the Cobra website to clear up any misunderstanding that Coleman may have created. If you guys have any brains you'll call for yourselves and decide who to believe, Richard who represents the company - or Coleman. I think Coleman may be getting peoples hopes up just to pull the rug out from under them hoping they'll switch over to the AllStarLift. If Coleman's on the level he should list the names of the buyers on this board so people can verify that they're on the list in the public forum like I've seen them do with other group buys. For all we know, there may be 20 buyers for the Autolifters lift already, but Coleman wants to make sure he has enough for the AllStarLift. He has been saying that he's been waiting for responses from 31 people for over a week. For a discount like he stated it shouldn't take someone that long to make a decision. He may be trying to manipulate the numbers so that when there aren't enough to buy the Autolifters lifts, he'll get some to switch over to the AllStarLift, and then the people who were die hard Autolifter people will be on their own, and possibly stuck with the recent price increase of $2695 for the M80XT. Let Coleman explain how he secretly got hooked up with some stakeholder at Autolifters, when the only one I can ever get connected to is Richard. I guess I don't have the top secret code.
The deal I got was as follows:
Richard said whether it's 20 people or just myself just mention the Cobra Club Group Buy and he would sell me the lift for $2595 (by the way, they just recently raised the price to $2695 for the M80XT on their website, but he honored the $2595 price), and then discount the accessories, like selling the caster set for $100, an 8" jack tray for $75, a 12" jack tray for $85, and so on. I asked him how many people he needed to get those discounts, and he said he'd give them to me today if I was ready to order. I went ahead and ordered an M80XT with the Caster set and a 12" jack tray for a total of $2780 (plus I had to pay sales tax as I live in Kansas and am going to pick up at their facility).
He said whether a couple or 20 people order his lifts, the discounts would be the same and there would not be any advantage to waiting to order unless you're trying to pool shipping resources.
After reading the posts on this board, I called Autolifters back and told Richard what Coleman was saying about having some secret contact at Autolifters and Richard just laughed and said "there's no secret contact here." Richard clarified that he is the only one at Autolifters who can offer or authorize any discount on their lifts, so he would know of any such agreement. I could care less about this group buy anymore, as I've already laid down my money, but hopefully now that Coleman's story has been exposed people may not be so surprised when the Autolifter deal falls through and he tries to get them to switch over to the AllStarLift to meet their minimum number of 10. If you want the Autolifter lift I strongly urge you to call them yourself and decide who's telling the truth. If you're lucky Richard will still honor the old prices and give you the discount he gave me.
Good luck,
Kenneth Fredrickson