[RedSabre]

Thanks for all the tips. As we stated we tried the starter bump but used 1st instead of 4th. Oops. Did not shake it loose. Guess we will have to pull the tranny to see what gives. Will look to see if there is a removable plate on the bell housing so we can see inside while operating the clutch. Might give us an indication of what's going on. Man, this is when I wish the car was not so low to the ground as I do not fit too well under car's these days even on car jacks.