Maricopa,
Exactly what do you have pictures of ????
"For anyone wanting to see some REAL ones I have pictures."
I ordered mine with twin roll bars and have been told they were functional (frame mounted). I've seen a lot of pictures of cars here with the short little stubby bars, well below head level but like they say, if you have a $10 head...... I've been crashed and bashed too many times, too many days in hospitals and too many times on the operating table. Its your dime that bought the car, your life, do your own thing.... kinda like putting head rest on your seats....