JTD, LOWELL W, I worked on a farm at age 12 every summer. Learned to drive tractor at 11 and truck at 12. Needed 2/4 for the pedals. Took the safety course when 12 for pistol and rifle. Father was in the ARMY and learned how to shoot. High power cars and guns BOTH need respect. From the reply to this thread, All seam to understand this with there kids. A good basic upbringing. In NJ average per week is 2-3 shoots with killings. People in the poor areas like Camden and parts of Newark, the cops stay out of the areas for fear of being killed. Freedintoad did a smart thing and maybe saved a couple of lives. Like said,17 is TOO young for any youth to be driving 400+hp car. I had 7 accidents and saw GOD once. I learned my lesson without hurting anyone but me. Since 75 I loose 1-2 class mates every year from car accidents. I and my close circle of friends are all still here. Driving and drinking is a thing of the past, both with cars and motorcycles. I now drive others.
