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Mike,
You laid into him pretty hard just for posting a different viewpoint. Your comments were personal, and directed against him. His video was not personally directed against you. That makes you look like the one with the thin skin, as you fired the first shot.

Mike and Venamm,
Everyone tends to think that their country is better than everyone elses, so 'nationalist' is probably a more accurate term than 'racist'. Unfortunately, that also tends to make people bury their heads in the sand about the problems that their country has. The US is a great country, but we have created a lot of our own problems. We are not going not be able to fix them unless we acknowledge that they are our problems.

I don't know anything about the lumber trade other than I like how wood sounds. I do know that it is good for the US to be prosperous, and I also know that it is beneficial to the US for our neighbours to be prosperous. We do have a great deal of trade with Canada - and both countries have done well as a result. We also don't have millions of Canadians running to the border looking for jobs so Canada is doing something right.

I like the Bracero program that Roscoe posted info about. I am also in favour of harsher penalties for companies that hire illegals - after all - they are the ones benefitting from the cheap labour. We also need to control our borders. It would also be beneficial to us for Mexico to become more prosperous. Obviously, we cannot do that for them, but there might be ways that we can help them do that for themselves.

Venamm,
Relax. People in the lounge can be very passionate about their politics. The lounge usually has very little to do with cars. All of us are always right, and that can make for some very heated arguments. I've never met any of the CCers in person, but the ones I've had the most heated arguments with are the ones I am the most curious about.

Steve