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Originally Posted by REAL 1
Well....aside from all the usual CSX knocks which as usual come from the CSX "have nots" all I will say is that the asking price is what it is. Finish Line said there are tremendous hours in each car, triangulated chasis, the best racing components, dry sump motor and its limited in production to 12 units with a Comp MSO etc..etc..I'm not advocating for it nor advocating against it. It is what it is. Some have been sold apparently to guys who see the value in the car. Others may not.
As far as the car not being eligble for vintage racing or whatever, who cares. Guys will use them as they want and likely most buyers will not put a $325,000.00 car on track in a serious way anyway. I'd use a FFR for that. I don't think anyone really believes these cars are competitive against todays race cars. Thats not why guys buy these cars. Get real.
There are plenty of cars that sell for more then similar or just like cars. Acuras sell for more then Hondas, Infinitis sell for more then Nissans, Lexus sells for more then Toyota, ERA sells for more then FFR, CSX's sell for more then Kirkhams (more then 2x's as much), originals sell for more then Continuations series etc...There is value there somewhere the buyers are seeing whenever a buyer lays out the difference.
Even within a brand some cars that are basically the same car sells for twice as much. As for example, a standard 997S is half the price of a GT3. Same basic car, just more toys and tweaks. Is there really twice the work in the car, twice the cost of production. Nope.
Standard aluminum CSX will now cost if done right about $170K approx. A special edition Comp CSX with special chasis and limited production is twice that number. Some see the value. Obviously the CSX "have nots" here won't cause after all its just a "replica" anyway 
As far as Cranky's buddies not being able to sell their CSX for anything "close to their investment" they obviously haven't tried very hard or are looking in the wrong places. Whatever.
What I do know is that 2 buddies of mine (a Candy apple red CSX and a brushed aluminum CSX) recently sold their for over $145,000.00. The cars were each over 7 years old. Hmmm. Imagine that. 
If Cranky's buddies have aluminum cars they should try again since the price of a new unfinished roller from SAI is now $115K up from $90K. For a car that "just isn't selling" the prices and values seem to keep going up. Weird!!! |
Evan,
While I agree with many of the things you post on the boards, there are some things you post here that need a little correction as you may not be aware of the situation.
As for the "have nots" I would say they are not the only ones who think the above car is a little bit expensive--some of us "haves" think that way too. Even some "original" car owners think that way too... Regardless, that is Finish Line's business and I wish them success. Successful companies help this industry; bad ones hurt our industry. I wish them no ill. I would suggest non-ownership of a CSX car does not disqualify you from making constructive comments on CSX cars. You comment on the Palestinians all the time--and I am quite sure you are not one. As such I imagine you have not walked in their shoes very far. (This is NO comment on the problems in the Middle East, there is enough popcorn on this thread for now.)
Your comment of "CSX's sell for more then [sic] Kirkhams (more then 2x's as much)," then I would very much disagree. Our cars regularly sell for over 100-115K when they are "done right." Just ask Keith Craft. Our cars can be purchased cheaper if someone is willing to do a tremendous amount of work on their own. I don't think you can purchase a CSX car for much savings if you put it together yourself. It helps to compare apples to apples. True, one of our cars (Simoes') sold for 88K recently. That is the cheapest I have seen one of our cars go for in a long time. (There may be others; I don't know about them). Regardless, $88,000 x2 equals $176,000 which is quite a bit more than your "recently sold their for over $145,000.00." It is even more than your "Standard aluminum CSX will now cost if done right about $170K approx" car.
Your comment, "If Cranky's buddies have aluminum cars they should try again since the price of a new unfinished roller from SAI is now $115K up from $90K. For a car that "just isn't selling" the prices and values seem to keep going up. Weird!!!
" is quite strange. As a supplier to Shelby of aluminum cars I can tell you they purchase very few cars from us--fewer all the time. This is no secret; it will be all published with dates and owners in the new registry. This is no bad comment on Shelby. On the contrary, lately, they have been quite reasonable to deal with from our perspective as a supplier to them. They order parts; we ship parts; they pay for parts...just like any normal business relationship. I just don't know why they purchase fewer and fewer aluminum cars from us and yet keep raising the price of their aluminum cars. Perhaps they are too busy selling Shelby Mustangs and their new Shelby Terlingua Mustangs (which I think are pretty cool). Anyway, how many aluminum Cobras they sell at whatever price is their business. No matter how much we would wish it, the original price does not reflect the "value" of a car--only the market can do that. Whatever they do is fine with me as we are selling much more than we can keep up with at the moment anyway.
David
