[decooney]

Hi Joe, All - Sorry, I have to post this reply.


I just got a phone call on this thread and I guess I have to let some things out of the bag since this thread forces me to.

First, the interest and excitement is appreciated with regard to WSCB and the intent to carry it on. There are some things we could not talk about Saturday night. The clue here to consider is the people involved and the charter participants, not the event or name itself. Here are a few follow-up clarifications in case it was not clear as announced in person at the Saturday night closing meeting at WSCB 2008. As for ongoing interest, as stated clearly (we thought), all proposals in writing would be considered and reviewed by those who created WSCB with any intent or planned intent of use; and me with the final say and decision on it. The name, DBA entity, organization, equipment, banners, and proprietary association with d.e.cooney productions has not been released to anyone or any entity so it's NOT "up for grabs" so to speak. I was not under the assumption anyone would just try and grab it without seeking review and approval, so let's be clear here. We are not passing the torch here in a solicited or unsoliciated manner. This is a message to anyone pondering the idea - Don't try it please; there is more we can't explain in a public forum.

My name is directly tied to WSCB, Western States Cobra Bash, the "brand", our websites, T-Shirts, Posters, Photos, Hats, Clothing/Apparel, Treasury/Accounts/Non-Profit Org, Donations/Agreements, All WSCB Logos, vendor relationships, agreements, and everything that has been developed and implemented here. As you may not be aware, core team members have a say in the matter into me, out of respect of them too, along with some 1st/2nd year attendees we are consulting with now. The other issue is release of liability and that would be a written legal agreement and turnover as well in response to any viable and approved proposal. i.e. not for sale or transfer. WSCB is dead and mothballed at this time. I can't say anything further about it at this time for confidential reasons. I hope this helps, as I did not want this thread to go any further without some clarification. More detailed explanation will be provided to those with proposals that get reviewed and formally considered. I've got two on the table now, and have passed on both. Here is the way it goes. If it's not done right, it won't be done at all using the WSCB name and heritage There are reputations and history at stake here and it won't just go to anyone or it may never go to anyone. Part of it is to preserve it. The other part is to see what gets proposed over the next few years. Till then, a few other developments are forming now to keep all the same people together in some way, giving them options to allow the people, relationships, and history to remain in tact. My goal, and John's goal, and many of our core and 1st/2nd year attendees is to protect and preserve that. We can't discuss all the details right now. The Charter member attendees who attended years one through four have already sent in emails and they understand what is going on here.

ALL, as another reminder - please consider WSCB as officially CLOSED, NOT ON THE MARKET, NOT FOR SALE, NOT FOR TRANSFER or TAKEOVER, NOT AVAILABLE, NOT UP FOR GRABS. This is all we can say about it at this time.

With that said, unofficially, other group "prototype" interests are forming stemming from the roots of the same core group of people and attendees who made WSCB what it was for the first four years.

Possible Next Steps, formerly affiliated with WSCB:
1. Something to do with Cobra people, gathering, stayovers, and drives.
2. Something to do with a track, people, and former people involved.
3. Not using any WSCB names or affiliations or references.

Stay tuned. Can't say any more on that note. Meanwhile, have a good summer.

Obviously, anything that anyone wants to do otherwise not using any of the former WSCB names or references is up to you and the more Cobra events the better as far as many of us are concerned. Thanks, Duane