Look, I will nail it. I am working on the damn thing every day. I'm frustrated as hell! Believe me, I care, I'm trying, and its driving me nutz. mysql, php, memcache, vbulletin, isapi rewrite, are just some of the programs that run to make all this stuff work...errr...or not work together. Pinpointing the problem with no real errors to speak of is difficult as all get out. I understand your frustration...I just am not really well equipped at the moment to take pot shots.