[Joe Wicked]

Simply put it is not anyones place to speculate or post what they heard happen. John knows what happened, and he is the only one who knows all the facts. Information is helpful yes, but to get it second hand is not reliable. There are specifics lost, even from someone who saw it happen. From the way I read this, John and Elaine have ASKED the members who were there to not post about the accident. I for one would also choose to respect their wishes. If you really want to know about it, then I suggest sending a message to John and let him reply. I can tell you from the little I know about this local group here, that no matter how many times you ask or how you justify it, the wishes will be followed first and foremost. In other words, the accident information will not come from anyone here. Please respect this and wait for John to post about it, or contact John yourselves.

Thank you,

PS, I was not there, I have not heard anything other than what I have read here. My first thought to Sam's post was 'What happened? How did it happen?' By reading that John asked it to be left alone, I have not asked anyone local as to what happened. Just simple respect for someone.