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It's a good point Nester and I think most of the guys posting here really do understand that. It's typical for the 'talk' to become inflamed during a discussion but cooler heads usually prevail when it comes right down to it.

Along those lines and in accord with International standards I would hope these men, horrific though they be, were allowed counsel by the home country, Mexico in this case. I would expect the same, help and representation from American embassy personel should I get in trouble in a foreign land.

It's easy to say you should be held accountable for your crimes according to local law, but local law can be difficult to understand in a foreign land. You go into a store, buy an apple, a language problem ensues, confusion reigns and you leave with the apple thinking you paid for it. But maybe in the eyes of the local's you STOLE it! The law demands your HAND BE CUT OFF for stealing. I would hope that country allows someone from the USA to represent your interests, even if it means eventually your hand WILL be cut off! We can't pick and choose when and to whom we will listen to when it comes to International law, it needs to apply to all countries.