[Woodz428]

I do know that Dove has a poor history with porosity problems from first hand experience, but that isn't very recent. I ,too, wanted something other than anecdotal references. Someone could have relayed a story I had relayed to them 15 or 20 years ago, but that doesn't speak to what they are doing TODAY. That's probably why myself as well as others wondered about the validity of some comments. It is especially important when a first time poster is making the claims. I will say, that just because you gave a link to someone elses comments doesn't supply any added credibility if that person is also an unknown. I am also familiar, first hand, with some of the original cammer stuff and it wasn't "all that" when it came to quality. Many things have improved in the probably 30+ years that Dove has been in business and a more detailed and current analysis isn't too much to ask. I agree that the "junk,junk,junk" comments do little to describe anything accurately. I say this with full knowledge of Dove's spotty record, but things can and do improve. The pics that were linked to of the product appeared to be fairly well made and add as much to the conversation as the genralizing of "junk". IMHO.