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Old 08-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Wes Tausend Wes Tausend is offline
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When I was younger I carried a sawed off 12 ga shot gun under my pickup seat for a while. When I inquired about whether it was legal in ND, I was told that it constituted a concealed weapon and could be cause for arrest. Took it out, pronto. At the same time, it was rather common to have a full size rifle or shotgun behind the truck seat for hunting access. Racks were unpopular because that could result in a busted window and lost rifle. I didn't have a pistol permit, and never have gotten one, although I later considered it from a standpoint of transporting an out-of-sight handgun to-and-from a firing range.

In the case of the handgun, I found that as long as the pistol was in a locked case, it could be legally kept out of sight in my vehicle, which is what I do now for rare transport. Kind of useless for personal protection this way. As for the sawed off shotgun, the previous owner had left the barrel at 18½ inches which was just longer than the 18 inch legal minimum. The stock was cut to a pistol grip. But my LEO source told me it might be legal but would likely be frowned upon. ND does not ever allow a round in the chamber inside a vehicle that I know of. When we hunt, we have to chamber a round upon exit to be ready , but the magazine can be pre-loaded.

There is far less reason for carry personal protection here in ND than some parts of the country. The one time I would like to carry is when on vacation to less safe areas of the USA. But that doesn't work too well legally across state lines, right now. I personally think tourists are chosen pickings, with the perp knowing the likelyhood of them being unarmed.

The next time a friendly amendment-rights politician gets in, I wish they could do something to make available a federal permit that would be good anywhere. The perp would have to think twice about tourists that may be armed, good for all, armed and unarmed alike.

Wes

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