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DV: thanks for insights, I do think 2 inch is an ok size. I was wondering if solid steel rather than tubing would provide needed support. and then I would add plenty of gussets inside the car to accept the roll bar. I am not afraid of butchering up the inside and under side to make room for the other connecting points. I was looking at the emerson set up, and would like to even provide more bracing than that but still only have either one single or maybe two roll bars with no exposed bracing. so the real question is can it be really braced sufficient, and is there a stout enough bar that will not fold without the external bracing.

Thanks and no problem about insulting me, that is why I posted it, to get insights. good thing is my wife and I are only 5.6 inches tall so we would not have to have the roll bar real high to make it 3 inches above our heads.

Ray