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I absolutely disagree with the "get in or get out" scenario! While some comparisons can be made to Vietnam I believe the long term down side of a complete pull out in Afghanistan is much more serious than what we faced in Vietnam. Back then we were dealing with a domino theory of communism and what that MIGHT result in. Now? We KNOW what the end result will be in Afghan. The Taliban and Al Queda WILL use it for a training and staging area specifically to attack America. The Viet's just basically wanted to be left alone, here the enemy WILL be planning an attack on us.

Therefore, at a minimum we should leave at least a small contingent of personel and rely on drone's to keep the enemy in check. This is not a long term solution and in the end even that may fail. It is possible there is NO long term solution no matter what we do. As I see it, our only real hope, long term, is essentially "Nation Building" for the Afghans. It's possible such a goal is unrealistic. BUT, if indeed that IS the goal, embracing the PEOPLE is the key. Without their support, their will, we have no chance. Ignore them at our own peril.