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Originally Posted by Jamo
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Since you're the only one not opining from an armchair...everything seems to indicate that we're dealing with some of the geo-political issues we had in Vietnam, i.e., cross-border issues. As with Laos and Vietnam, the rascals we're trying to nail down jump back and forth across the tribal regions, which owe little alligence to state borders, making it all but impossible to trap them. Then I read that folks kicked out of the Pakistani regions come into Afghanistan ready to fight everybody.
And then we find out today that the Pakistan military got only a fraction of the money we sent them for fighting the basturds.
This is a bit different scenario than Iraq...a state military and nobody jumping across into Iran or Turkey (except for Kurds with their own agenda), and few able to make it to Syria undetected.
Seems also that we're fighting several groups of folks with varying agendas...the Taliban are trying to retake the country, Osama's folks are trying to carry on to regroup and attack targets outside of the region, and the varyious tribes are all fighting to maintain their own fiefdoms. In essence...one approach doesn't seem to fit all.
On top of all that...we have to play politics within NATO and two separate states.
FUBAR?
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jamo,
ACTUALLY, you'd be surprised. there was/is ALOT of border crossing in Iraq also. 90% of the people fighting in both countries don't even belong to either. the difference in Iraq is that they were already prepared to rebuild their Military and Police and we spent ALOT of time training them. In Afghanistan, the Taliban still owns so many people that corruption is still a serious problem.
Pakistan.... oh Pakistan..... it's funny becuase we seen 1000's killed here, 1000's killed there when they first started. But those numbers were surely inflated. Then they would call for our support but if a single civilian was killed at the coordinates they requested... it's the US fault.
AfghanisNam is never ending IMO. They will always be fighting in this region as they always have. I think our GOAL/MISSION should be to train local military/Police to be able to defend themselves. Right now, that's an impossible mission. Between the lack of manning keeping us from being the aggressor and to setup QUALITY training facilities, and the MASSIVE corruption issues.... it's Lose, lose.
OH, I'd also like to say.... I think this stuff should be kept under lock and key. They should NOT be releasing to the press IF and WHEN or HOW MANY troops are sent. This causes more problems for us over here. The media needs to be removed from the decisions of the country, yet they seem to have more say than anyone! All they have to do is report half truths, this sways the public opinion and thus forcing unthought out decisions.