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05-04-2010, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
It doesn't... it's a nice replica built with a few scrap pieces from AC.
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Scrap pieces? Well at least they are not imaginary piceces built by those drunks out by the river left out behind Shelby's shed for decades?
Perhaps spare parts, never intended to be built into a car by the factory might be a better description?
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05-04-2010, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anglesey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hawk 289FiA with Le Mans hardtop. AC CS(X)2131,289 (my father owned it from `67-`73)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Scrap pieces? Well at least they are not imaginary piceces built by those drunks out by the river left out behind Shelby's shed for decades?
Perhaps spare parts, never intended to be built into a car by the factory might be a better description?
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I think it`s ( now) quite clear...
A rolling 96" chassis supplied 'as is' by AC Cars of Thames Ditton ca.1969, which remained unbuilt until commisioned by Dr.Kravitz, when a brand new body & structural parts were made, by respected specialists in the field.
Attention to detail finding New Old Stock or original spec (MSD excepted!) parts, and a really nice car being the result.
The issue of original Cobras having lesser or greater repairs/rebuilds is 'usually' recorded in the registries, and reflects in their values & desireability.
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05-04-2010, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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I get the sense that the discussion over exactly what this car is considered to be might have been less pointed had the eBay ad been worded differently. Calling this the one and only MX 1 original AC Cobra is basically a non-starter for many of us.
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05-04-2010, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: centralia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B cobra (sold), Hurricane HMS1002 (sold), Kirkham 289 FIA, (sold) RCR GT 40(sold) SPF GT40 2122(sold) Hurricane HMS2002, (sold) RCR SLC (sold) GTR on the way!
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I think we know what it is, how much is it worth? I know all the answers like"what someone will pay" but if you were asked to appraise the car, what you you say?
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05-04-2010, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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Anything that is 1 of 1 by definition has no comparable sales by which to assess a value, hence one would have to determine what other cars might be the most similar in characteristics, including date-coded equipment, etc. I'm not sure exactly which cars I would use in that effort.
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05-05-2010, 01:36 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anglesey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hawk 289FiA with Le Mans hardtop. AC CS(X)2131,289 (my father owned it from `67-`73)
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But is it really one of one?
I think it could be compared fairly realistically to any of the other half-dozen or so Frua`s that have been chopped into 'Cobras'.
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05-05-2010, 02:47 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Crawley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AC427 MkIII of 2004 vintage
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'Tis a bastard is what it is!! Allegedly. I have spoken.....(can we have a new category in the Registry please Uncle Ned?)
OK I have to be pedantic now: you can say that AC were staid, but not 'stayed' (though they stayed in Thames Ditton I'll admit). Sorry Real 1, just a point of order :-)
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05-05-2010, 08:14 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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Nik - I agree in general, but would have to draw a distinction between a chassis that was given a VIN within a particular series and was also constructed into something other than a Cobra, vs. one that has a unique VIN and was never finished beyond the bare chassis stage. With the former, you are deconstructing in order to rebuild. The closest comparables that come to mind, as has been previously mentioned, are the Paramount chassis, COB/X 6128 - 6132, which were built by AC as stretched bare chassis , but with VIN's in the AC 289 range of cars.
I believe Trevor has most succinctly determined how to refer to the car.
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05-13-2010, 03:52 PM
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Location: dallas,texas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lots fo different cars that change all of the time
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just an update
The car sold for $170,000 yesterday.
Jay
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