Mexifornia License

[ToyCollector]

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[CowtownCobra]

Badge?, I don' need no stinkin' badge...

[csx700?]

.........the democrats should just hand california back to mexico, i'm sure you've heard of the bill (SB 30?) to give mexican imigrants FREE college tuition............i think it's time to move to another state!!!

[weekendwarrior]

Actually Mexico only controlled California in name only, after Spain bowed of North America in 1822. After 1831 California was controlled by the people that lived here the Californios, there was no Mexican Military, just the Californios that were paid in land to police the place. By the time of the Bear Republic the population was USA 250K, Californios 15K. Mexico has no right to California at all.

It is the intellectual socialists that are trying to rewrite California History as well as the US Constitution.

Gary

[Bud Man]

Whats amazing is that Gray-out Davis is actually picking up support against the recall... Gotta build that constituency!!!

And now he's got Slick Willie!!

Bud

[Satanpez]

Some may find that picture disgusting and racist.

I find it quite funny!

Usually someone in the main seat gets all the blame even if it isn't their fault. Presidents, Governers, etc.

Noone can truly deny that Davis screwed up big time.

At first I thought Arnold would take an easy win. Now it's looking like the state of crack addicts may vote in Bustamonte. A man who was a member of MEChA, which is basically the Mexican form of the KKK. He refuses to denounce the violent organization.

-steve in nj-

[Jamo]

The problem is as it has been the past few elections...the California Republican Party is beating itself up. The Conservatives are holding onto a dream, which is simply not shared by the moderates of both parties. While I count myself as an ultra-conservative, I am starting a new wing of the Calif. GOP called the Pragmatic Conservatives, with a nickname of "AFR"...we need to win with a Republican..."Any F***ing Republican", and Arnold would do quite nicely if McClintock would do the smart thing and fall on his sword sooner rather than later.

Now, I fight the UFW and other radical groups day-in and day-out. I am the son a table grape grower, victims of the grape boycotts over the decades. Yet, my roommate in college was a board member of our college's MEChA, around the same time that Cruz was in another chapter at Fresno State. I learned alot living with the son of a farmworker, and he did from me. MEChA was certainly not on the level of the KKK. That would be the Brown Berets. MEChA was liberal as he!!, so don't misunderstand me, but I fear the political PR machines are overdoing it from the GOP side, just as they have from the Demo side of things in some of the crap they're throwing at Arnold.

Cruz is from my area...some business folks here in the San Joaquin Valley are actually backing him because we're tired of LA and Frisco throwing shoving crap down the Valley's throat. The dynamics of this election are far beyond what you read in the papers...and points out just how many "Californias" there really is.

Cruz is dangerous from an overall standpoint because he will continue Davis' policies, and is much weaker in being able to stand up against the more liberal elements of the State's Demos...ie., Burton and his cronies--the real power in California at the present time.

Thank you and good night Chet.

[foothills gary]

AFR!AFR!AFR! It appears that Pete Wilson is coaching Arnold(an ex-marine and live grenade if I ever saw one).It may not be quite as hopeless as it seems.McClintock would be every Conservatives dream,no doubt,but...AFR!

[Back in Black]

I was a 2nd Amend activist in Sacramento until 1990...And I do remember him as a defender of the 2nd Amendment and a true conservative. Could even he save California? Nope.. the seeds of it's destruction are already grown and coming to fruition. I am not trying to be dramatic, it's obvious to a lot of us who fled the state for freedom and a better life over the last two decades.

Arnold is a traitor to the constitution and a conspirator in league with hidden powers that be.. if anyone readind this does not understand, maybe you never will, but here are a few articles to ponder:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=33830

http://www.savethemales.ca/000034.html

This next article is ultra bizarre, but the Bohemian Grove is where the Mexifornia Republicrats meet regularly:
http://infowars.com/bg_story_template.html

[Jamo]

The Grove is where folks from all, supposedly different, viewpoints gather to decide what's best for the entire world. The alumni list is staggering...

[weekendwarrior]

The commie court (9th circuit) just blocked the recall.

[shaps]

According to the wire services, not blocked, rather postponed:

Court Delays Recall Vote in California, Citing Faulty Ballots
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal appeals court postponed California's Oct. 7 gubernatorial recall election, ruling the historic vote cannot proceed as scheduled because some votes would be cast using outmoded punch-card ballot machines.

In what was the last of about a dozen legal challenges to the attempt to unseat Gov. Gray Davis, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Monday it is unacceptable that six counties would be using outdated punch-card ballots, the type that sparked the "hanging chads" litigation in Florida during the 2000 presidential election.

The appellate panel agreed with the American Civil Liberties Union that the voting machines were prone to error and that Davis' fate could be decided later. By that time, the counties have promised to replace their punch-card machines under a court order in separate litigation.

The counties include the state's most populous region, Los Angeles, in addition to Mendocino, Sacramento, San Diego, Santa Clara and Solano. They represented 44 percent of the state's registered voters during the 2000 election.

State officials, who conceded in court documents that the punch-card voting mechanisms are "more prone to voter error than are newer voting systems," were likely to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"In sum, in assessing the public interest, the balance falls heavily in favor of postponing the election for a few months," the court said.

It was not immediately clear how the decision would impact the campaign in California's first voter-driven election to unseat its governor. The court withheld ordering the immediate implementation of its decision, allowing a week for appeals to the Supreme Court.

One possibility is that the 9th Circuit, the nation's largest and most liberal federal appeals court, might move the election to the next regularly scheduled primary, on March 2.

[Mr.Fixit]

I don't understand what is wrong with the punch cards. I have used punchcard ballots every time I have ever voted, piece of cake. No hanging chads, no problems at all. Wouldn't the mistakes be distributed equally amongst both sides anyway? Or is their argument, that one political party will bear a larger percentage of idiot voters who can't figure out a punchcard, and are thus being discriminated against?

[xlr8or]

The demo's are afraid of the voting machines resembling Florida machines.

This is getting more and more rediculous as continues.
We'll see how long Bill Clinton last's with him.. Hope he doesn't slip and call him Monica.

[terry lee]

I thought we put all that punch card crap to rest after the last presidential election and the Florida counts and recounts, suits and countersuits, legal battles and hearings in the State and US Supreme Courts.

My question is: When is it going to stop.
In the REAL business world, if you don't do your job, you loose it. Why should it be any different in government?

Hasn't the ACLU done enough damage to this country already?

I hope all you voters in Ca. can kick some ACLU ass and let the voting public have their voice at the polls. This action by a small group of liberals will have repercussions thru out this country if left unchecked. This whole thing has me really PI$$ED, and I don't live out there.
Enough is Enough!!!!!

TL

[weekendwarrior]

What I don't understand is the current voting machines worked ok in the election that elected Davis but they are flawed for a recall election. They must have worn out in the last year.

Gary

[ToyCollector]

It is coming to the point where sadly my vote is to take what little money and possesions I have and move them to another country. Ultimately, that is what it may trend to. Other than showing up at the polls and getting involved, your money vote is the one that matters most. In the meantime, beat the bastards every way you can.

[Jamo]

Those of us who practice before call it the Ninth Circus.

Unfortunately, they used the reasoning (reverse application) raised by the Bush camp in getting the US Supreme Court to b!tch slap the Florida Supreme Court...which utilized the 14th Amendment. May have become the Pandora's Box for this kind of crap.

General consensus is that moving the recall to the General Election in March will favor the Demos.

Just pray the the Supreme Court takes up the case and tells the federal courts to stay out of the several states' electoral processes, which is what the District Court below had essentially said.

[G.R.]

Dumb question here--but since I'm not a lawyer:

How can any state be ruled by a Federal court mandate RE: CA's
9th Disitric Court(Federal?)regarding a States recall of the head of the legislating body--I know Federal Courts have power but since when do they have power over state voting and due process--or did I miss something in the years since I was in college

[Tom T.]

Gary,

I've not read either decision (Ron may have?) but generally federal courts have jurisdiction over "federal questions"--the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which Ron referred to above, has to do with the constitutionally protected right of due process. My guess is that the basic argument is that since the voting machines in question have a certain, known, error rate, which is more than negligible (in the court's view anyway), the machines deprive voters and/or candidates due process. A contrary argument would be that such a problem wouldn't really matter at the end of the day, since it would presumably affect candidates equally. Maybe Ron could provide further detail?

TT