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06-06-2012, 09:31 AM
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2004 MKIV Value
I recently looked at a 2004 that has 2,500 miles on it in excellent condition. Is the cars value $50,000?
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06-06-2012, 09:50 AM
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Not unless it has something very very special under the hood, A used Superformance in great shape can be had for under 50g, and it costs more to start a SPF build over a Factory 5, alot more.
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06-06-2012, 09:52 AM
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I recently looked at a 2004 that has 2,500 miles on it in excellent condition. Is the cars value $50,000?
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You really need to give more detail if you expect a qualified response.
Which drivetrain does it have, engine, transmission, rear end, brakes, etc. Color combination? Carbon fiber or aluminum body? Pictures of the engine compartment, dash, trunk, wheels, car itself?
Without these items, there is no way for anyone to properly respond to your inquiry as to a value.
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06-06-2012, 10:32 AM
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I recently looked at a 2004 that has 2,500 miles on it in excellent condition. Is the cars value $50,000?
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Hmm, you posted this is the "AC MKIV" subforum. Were they still making AC MKIVs in 2004?
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06-06-2012, 10:36 AM
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I don't know much about the car except, 302CID, 5 speed, blue with silver stripes, wheels have the safety wired locks(I assume they all do). It comes with the top, tunnel cover. I'm not too familiar with these cars. I was told it was bought for $110,000 new. Does $110,000 sound correct back in '04?
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06-06-2012, 11:19 AM
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check these cars out for pricing....
Cobras Continuations for Sale
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06-06-2012, 12:22 PM
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I've found more information on the car.
2004 AC COBRA Mk. IV CRS basic data listing
I appreciate all the help. It's a beautiful car that I would love to buy.
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06-06-2012, 12:24 PM
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06-06-2012, 01:12 PM
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I recently looked at a 2004 that has 2,500 miles on it in excellent condition. Is the cars value $50,000?
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I think CRS stands for Carbon/composite Road Sport so it's not the aluminum body. If the aluminum car it's a steal. If not, it's still interesting and probably a decent buy. Being an real AC brings value.
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06-06-2012, 03:47 PM
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There were 4 different series of AC MKIV's, with the last of the Brian Angliss AC MKIV's being built before 1996. Anything after that, I believe, was built by Alan Lubinsky. (per 4th edition of "The World Registry of Cobras & GT40's")
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06-07-2012, 11:12 AM
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In the Brian Angliss era, there were (relatively) plenty of AC MKIV's built. If I remember correctly, they cost about $40K new in the 1980s. Today you see those cars selling for more than that. There is one for sale on this site now for about $80K.
However, I don't think Alan Lubinsky managed to deliver very many cars at all. I believe that were were a couple of his cars built in Malta on eBay here a couple of years ago and nobody was interested in buying them. As such, determining a market price for a 2004 is probably going to be harder to figure out. Did Alan manage to sell this car for $110K new in 2004? Who knows.
I'm not really sure that an AC CRS should be categorized as an AC MKIV. I would think that there are two entirely different things.
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06-09-2012, 05:38 AM
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AC Cobra CRS
The AC Cobra CRS is a variant of the MkIV and is described in the AC Owners Club Registry as a 'Cobra MkIV CRS'
It has a Carbon Fibre body which was built by Pro-Tech Motorsport Ltd, and the 37 production cars were built by AC at Brooklands in 2000 and 2001 (a prototype was built in 1999). Most cars when built had a 225hp Fuel Injected 5 litre Ford V8 and a five speed manual gearbox but two, known as '212 S/C' had the 350hp twin turbocharged Lotus V8 engine. The CRS was the last of the 'production' cars built by the ACs company in England (as distinct from the Mk111 continuation cars). AC were legally entitled to use the 'Cobra' moniker until June 2002.
The cars have an authentic Cobra shape and are well built although the dashboard is sometimes criticised for its modern controls. These cars are considered to be good value for money and usually sell quickly - prices are normally between £40 - £50k ($62-$78k) but the S/Cs are more expensive. All the cars were built for the UK market apart from one which was sold to a 'D Smith' in Santa Fe - the AC Registry describes this car as a 'Left Hand Drive Special Lightweight' but the engine used is not specified.
Here's an example on sale at present:
AC : AC Cobra CRS (No 28.)
Further examples of the Cobra CRS
With Jack Sears:
And 212 S/C
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06-09-2012, 09:32 PM
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I don't think that dashboard looks bad. I think the later AC cars like the superblower had an ugly dashboard.
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06-10-2012, 12:38 AM
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I don't think that dashboard looks bad. I think the later AC cars like the superblower had an ugly dashboard.
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No, that dashboard has been revised. The original looks like this:
The more expensive aluminium Superblower was built during the same years as the CRS but as you say, the dashboard is 'unconventional'. Well built though.
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06-10-2012, 04:20 AM
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I have a vague recollection of a really ugly looking dash that I think of being associated with AC. Maybe it was from the MKV or something else? Do you have a pictures of a MKV?
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06-10-2012, 05:25 AM
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I have a vague recollection of a really ugly looking dash that I think of being associated with AC. Maybe it was from the MKV or something else? Do you have a pictures of a MKV?
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AC Mk V chassis 003
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06-10-2012, 05:36 AM
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06-14-2012, 08:37 AM
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Looking back at the post by "london", I think you have some good information.
Only 37 of these cars were built. Only 1 of the 37 was sold in the USA (which is presumably the the one you are looking at with the steering wheel on the left side).
In England, the other similar cars typically sell for $62k to $78k.
I guess the problem here is that with only 1 car in the USA, it is difficult to put a price on it.
On the other hand, let's say you purchased the car for $50k. If you immediately shipped it over to England, presumably you could sell it there for at least $62k. And with it being a "special lightweight" model, it would probably sell for a premium.
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06-14-2012, 11:27 AM
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Interesting ideas all -- is anyone able to shed light on the build quality in 2004 >? -- with so many things going on with them and only 37 cars produced in that period ,- I would wonder what was in it and how to support it. - AKA what if you need parts for something - engine is no big deal since that is generic , but what about brakes , suspension , etc - where did that stuff get made >?
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