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10-08-2009, 12:31 PM
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Member of the north
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Join Date: May 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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Is it real?
"What?"
The car
"What car?"
That car.
"What?"
If that doesn't get rid of them, I am tempted to drool. My wife gets mad at me when I do the whole "what" thingie.
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10-08-2009, 02:42 PM
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Oh....Oh....Oh, Oh, Oh !!!! I forgot one a question from the original post. And that was about a radio. Conversation goes something like this:
"Where's the stereo?"
"I don't have one."
"Watcha mean, ya don't have one? Man, if I had a car like this, I'd have one big-a$$ stereo in it!"
I explain not only is driving the car entertainment enough, but it can be a handful and distractions arn't something I need.
I just get a blank look.....totally glazed over look.
So......"Why don't you have a stereo?" is yet another question I"ve had a few times.
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10-08-2009, 03:14 PM
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Senior ClubCobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northern,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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I don't think I would ever answer yes to 'is it real?'. They would probably write my license number down and come to my house to steal it.
Psych.
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10-08-2009, 03:15 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
Posts: 2,154
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I only have to turn the key to answer that question. No way I could really listen to a stereo over the FE. And I'd rather enjoy the tunes of the FE anyway. Pure old-school driving enjoyment is the point for me.
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10-08-2009, 04:10 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
wa
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
Posts: 3,027
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Argess
I'm not sure what's happening to this thread, but it appears the air is getting cleared. I may clear the air myself pretty soon, but there's enough discussion stimulation as it is...
OH !......I can't believe someone hasn't gone to the Gallery and posted a comment under my car pic saying "Is it real?"..........LOL
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Honest, it wasn't me.
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10-08-2009, 04:13 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwd
Good points. I'm amused by those that think their "factory built" cars are superior to any others. I don't understand why they think a car made in a foreign country built by minimum wage workers or one built in the U.S. by illegal immigrants is better than one built in someones garage with tender loving care.
When asked if it's real, I proudly say "it's a replica that I built". That usually brings out multiple questions about the kit, costs and the build process. Much better than having to say "I bought it" and have them walk away.
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Jim, your car is absolutely beautiful, and you can easily see the care that went into building it.
However, not everyone will take the time to build a car to the level that you did. I'm sure that you would admit that yourself.
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10-08-2009, 04:27 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Argess
I'm not sure what's happening to this thread, but it appears the air is getting cleared. I may clear the air myself pretty soon, but there's enough discussion stimulation as it is...
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I'm hoping someone will clear the air, because this thread stinks.
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10-08-2009, 04:40 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwd
I'm amused by those that think their "factory built" cars are superior to any others.
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We talked about this exact point while I was up at ERA. I think I could build a car as well as, or pretty darn close to, the folks at ERA just by ordering all the stuff from them and then putting it all together. But it would take me a couple of years to do it, working full time on it as well. Seriously though, the key is buying all the stuff from them to reduce the need to fab stuff on your own. I think they sell every possible part except the engine -- even the air in the tires . Now, I would not pay for "minimum wage workers in a foreign country" to do the work. But, what do I know.... maybe they're quite skilled.
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10-08-2009, 05:06 PM
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Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I would not pay for "minimum wage workers in a foreign country" to do the work. But, what do I know.... maybe they're quite skilled.
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Hmm...like those cheap SPFs? Most of the parts you'd have to buy are made by minimum wage workers anyway.
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10-08-2009, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got the Bug
Hmm...like those cheap SPFs? Most of the parts you'd have to buy are made by minimum wage workers anyway.
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They don't have a minimum wage in that particular country.
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10-08-2009, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MIDLOTHIAN,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BACKDRAFT
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Just keep in mind that practically nothing that is sold in the USA is made here, not even our president....LOL..(African)....
I could not resist that....
Dex...
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10-08-2009, 06:37 PM
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Location: Jacksonville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #570 w Shelby FE
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I like Clinton's response: "Depends on what your definition of is is."
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10-08-2009, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Do I get worked up over terms? I wouldn't say worked up but I like to keep opinions from encroaching on facts.
SAAC, who is the world accepted authority on Cobras and replicas of Cobras defines all the terms you guys are talking about and struggling to define.
You are free to use your own definitions but I prefer to use and go with the acceptd meaning of the terms as set by the authoritative text on the subject...The SAAC Registry.
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10-08-2009, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
You are free to use your own definitions but I prefer to use and go with the acceptd meaning of the terms as set by the authoritative text on the subject...The SAAC Registry.
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Trotting out the same old tired "fact."
Just because everyone else is jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge doesn't necessary mean we have to follow them.
Mr. Kopec and Mr. Eber are only human beings, mere mortals, they have their opinions and they I'm sure have made their fair share of mistakes.
As you said, we're free, and we can hire our own experts.
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10-08-2009, 09:20 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Charleston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2592, Shelby alum. 527
Posts: 325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
You are free to use your own definitions but I prefer to use and go with the acceptd meaning of the terms as set by the authoritative text on the subject...The SAAC Registry.
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I seriously doubt if the average guy, or his wife and son, at the local cruise-in have ever heard of the SAAC Registry. You and I both know what he (or his 12 year-old son) means when he asks you if it is "real".
He is asking if the car is one of the "real" original '60s Cobras. He expects the honest truth.
I know you are proud of your continuation series car. Be proud of what it honestly is.
Rodger
Last edited by RodgerH; 10-08-2009 at 09:22 PM..
Reason: typo correction
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10-08-2009, 09:36 PM
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Ok, we have our positions clear; the Rodger view and the Evan view.
Evan - you own a real Shelby Cobra. That statement should be undisputed. If a 12 year old kid asks you if it's real ( and we all know he is asking if it is a 1960s Cobra), what is your answer?
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10-08-2009, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoenix,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR: 302 w/aluminum heads, Edlebrock injection. Street car trim, no scoop, side pipes or rollbar.
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My car is hand built in a factory just like a Ferrari.
Or a Yugo....
If a 12 year old kid asks you if it's real ( and we all know he is asking if it is a 1960s Cobra), what is your answer?
That's easy, he says, "Get the #!*& away from my car kid!"
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10-09-2009, 05:49 AM
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Half-Ass Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Just because everyone else is jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge doesn't necessary mean we have to follow them.
Mr. Kopec and Mr. Eber are only human beings, mere mortals, they have their opinions and they I'm sure have made their fair share of mistakes.
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Are you trying to say that Evan's authoritative citation is nothing more than "SAAC fiat?"
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10-09-2009, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Are you trying to say that Evan's authoritative citation is nothing more than "SAAC fiat?"
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Remember Apple's 1984 commercial with the women throwing a hammer at the screen to break the mind control of the State? That's what I mean. We the people are free to have a opinion different than SAAC and I've been a member since...a long time ago.
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10-09-2009, 07:48 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
We the people are free to have a opinion different than SAAC and I've been a member since...a long time ago.
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Peter P. assures me that the Vatican II has specifically addressed the issue and that ERA cars are indeed real Cobras. They trump SAAC, by a mile.
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