Tonight on Chasing Classic Cars - Cobras - Page 2

jay bentley · #21 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:05 AM

This car was also at a car show in Jamestown, RI. the last weekend of the month in 2008.

jay bentley · #22 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:08 AM

I meant to say last weekend of August 2008

PJ4myboo · #23 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:09 AM

Look, I am certainly not going to begrudge anyone for making a buck. This is America, after all and I'm all for it.

What I am NOT for is guys who grab these cars and push the prices to artificially high amounts and push the regular guy out of the market. Now before anyone says anything about regular guys and original Cobras, let's take a look at what has happened to the prices of Mustangs, Corvettes, 'Cudas, and just about any muscle car out there over the past few years. They went from affordable to sky high. Now let's compare that to what happened to 50's classics after the market crashed in 1987. Anybody remember how those prices were out of sight? What are they worth now? The same thing happened with Model A Fords before that. That's what I'm talking about when I say guys like that kill the hobby.

You can bet your bottom dollar that his bread and butter is not selling million dollar cars but lower priced classic cars, which he sells for more than they are truly worth. Just look at his lot.

Ok, I will get off of my soap box now.

computerworks · #24 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Just curious, and I'm no historian by any stretch, but did only a few comp cars have the dry sump oil system? 3034 did not, but it was converted to an S/C for sale. Love those magnesium wheels! I want some!

Only a few Comp cars had dry sump.

This car was never "converted to an S/C" if thats what they said... it was born an S/C.

And I don't think those wheels are the original set.

RodKnock · #25 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:23 AM

The seller stated 3034 was the last of 30 original comp cars. The seller said Shelby (or whoever originally sold it) couldn't sell it in comp form, so they converted it to an S/C.

SP01715 · #26 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jolsen42

Uh, that's what the show is about. It's not really about the cars but about Wayne Carrini and how he tracks down cars ,fixs them, or cleans them up and sells them. Hence the name of the show. The show never advertised that he was selling a collection of Cobras, but someone on this forum did a couple days ago. I don't know, I think the show is pretty interesting.
John O

Actually it is advertised as exactly that on my guide on Dish Network. I have it on my DVR, will have to check it out tonight.

khansmith · #27 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:25 AM

I enjoy the show but my expectation is that it is more focused on the chase rather than the mechanics. For more of a build view I watch shows like Gearz, Muscle Car, Chop Cut Rebuild, horse power, wheeler dealers, two guys garage, etc. Jesus I need a life!

RodKnock · #28 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:26 AM

Oh and they said it had 16,000 original miles too.

For a $1.2MM-ish car, I would have purchased a better car cover, maybe one of those "seal a meal" bags that Patrick uses for his ERA. It's the East Coast for heaven's sake!

computerworks · #29 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

The seller stated 3034 was the last of 30 original comp cars. The seller said Shelby (or whoever originally sold it) couldn't sell it in comp form, so they converted it to an S/C.

That's kind of a generalization... ALL the unsold Comp cars were converted to S/Cs

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Oh and they said it had 16,000 original miles too.

That's probably true; when I did a photo shoot on the car a few years ago, it had 15xxx miles.

RodKnock · #30 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:46 AM

I keep remembering little tidbits from the show, but the seller also stated that the car has never had any "trauma." I assumed that meant no accidents.

RodKnock · #31 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 10:53 AM

Here's a link to the show's website:

http://dhd.discovery.com/tv-schedule...122927.34612.x

The episode is advertised as follows: "Wayne is contacted by a collector looking to liquidate his collection of vintage racing Cobras worth upwards of 5.5 million dollars."

Cashburn · #32 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 11:06 AM

There are other Cobras to come on the show I believe. Since I know that he received several at the same time. I'm sure they are saving the others for new episodes.

REAL 1 · #33 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 11:15 AM

Jay: Ok, now I remember that car. It was at the Tasca Show but I think it was 2007.

Classic muscle cars appreciate in value primarily because they have become very desirable as classics of a day gone by of automotive history (not likely ever to return) not merely becasue of guys like Wayne Carrini or auctions.

PJ4myboo · #34 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by REAL 1

J
Classic muscle cars appreciate in value primarily because they have become very desirable as classics of a day gone by of automotive history (not likely ever to return) not merely becasue of guys like Wayne Carrini or auctions.

Yep, just like those tail fin cars did.

REAL 1 · #35 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 03:06 PM

Prices on anything wouldn't rise if people didn't want them regardless of whether its at an auction, ebay or elsewhere.

The Big Fin cars have their followers and that was also a neat era in automotive history. The Big Fin cars will likely not be coming back anytime soon.

Leave it to our government and the Green Czars the only cars that are comming in our direction will be battery powered egg shaped vehicles later changed to peddle powered when the Green Czars decide batterys create to many environmental issues.

The best in automotive history I'm afraid is behind us which is why auto enthusiasts are clinging to the classics.

CSX 4027 · #36 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 04:53 PM

...to bad it was restored as a generic Blue/White Cobra and not in the original color it was born in which was white.

RodKnock · #37 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CSX 4027

...to bad it was restored as a generic Blue/White Cobra and not in the original color it was born in which was white.

With only 16,000 miles and allegedly no "trauma" to the car, I wonder when and why it was painted? Bummer. It's only original once.

REAL 1 · #38 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 08:11 PM

Well age can take a toll on a paint finish without trauma. Perhaps the original owner or predecesor owners just wanted a color change to the "Shelby" color scheme. Who knows.

TButtrick · #39 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 03:47 AM

Here are a couple more in his collection to come.

SunDude · #40 (**permalink**) 10-15-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by computerworks

Only a few Comp cars had dry sump.

This car was never "converted to an S/C" if thats what they said... it was born an S/C.

And I don't think those wheels are the original set.

My understanding is that there were exactly three original 427 comp cars with the dry-sump oil system, including CSX3020 which was featured on My Classic Car.